DRAFT SUMMARY MINUTES OF A
BUDGET PUBLIC FORUM
OF THE CHAPEL HILL TOWN COUNCIL
Wednesday, March 28, 2007, AT 7:00
p.m.
Present were Mayor Kevin Foy, Mayor pro tem Bill
Strom, Council Member Laurin Easthom, Council Member Sally Greene,
Council Member Ed Harrison, Council Member Cam Hill, Council Member
Mark Kleinschmidt, Council Member Bill Thorpe, and Council Member
Jim Ward.
Staff members present were Town Manager Roger Stancil, Deputy Town
Manager Florentine Miller, Assistant Town Manager Bruce Heflin,
Town Attorney Ralph Karpinos, Town Information Officer Catherine
Lazorko, Finance Director Kay Johnson, and Acting Town Clerk Sandra
Kline.
Ms. Johnson presented the Town�s preliminary
budget, stressing that it was a status report
and not yet the Manager�s recommended
budget. She reviewed the factors affecting
the
budget, which include economic conditions,
services and stability, debt service costs, the downtown
development initiative, capital improvements, pay and
benefits, and new facilities.
Ms. Johnson said the Town�s base budget
was $50.237 million and it included $134,000 for
the Town Operation Center, $224,390 for the Aquatics
Center, and $60,020 for the Community Center. There
was a grant match for 12 new firefighters, totaling
$117,000, a vehicle replacement fund at $226,867, and streets
reconstruction at $90,000, she said.
Ms. Johnson noted that last year�s projections had
included the use of $1 million in fund balance.
At that time, the Town had looked at almost a two
cents shortfall in the General Fund and a four-tenths cent
Transportation Fund shortfall, she said. Ms. Johnson
pointed out that there had been changes since the time of
those projections, and she listed those
changes.
Ms. Johnson presented the General Fund estimated
revenues for 2007-08. She said there was a
projected base budget shortfall of $310,000, and
she reviewed priority additions that the
Council had wanted. Ms. Johnson explained
that total available funds were approaching $50
million, and costs, including the additions, were $54.893
million. This leaves a a shortfall of close to $5
million, she said.
Ms. Johnson explained that there was approximately
$2.1 million in fund balance that could reasonably be
used. This would still allow enough money for
the proposed amounts of use for fund balance in future years to
offset some of the debt, as planned, she said. Ms.
Johnson said that would still leave the fund balance at
approximately 15 percent.
With regard to the Transportation Fund, Ms. Johnson
told Council members that projections were largely as
anticipated, with a shortfall of $168,000. She
reviewed priority additions and explained that the
shortfall would be approximately $385,148 with those
added.
Ms. Johnson mentioned other funds, such as stormwater
management, parking, and public housing, and said they were as
expected. She discussed future budget
considerations, and presented a budget preparation
schedule.
Mayor Foy asked for clarification of
a grid showing base budget inclusions and
a deficit of about a half cent on the tax
rate. He noted that funding additions, which
were listed in a column next to that grid, would
create a nine cents difference. Ms. Johnson
replied that this would be correct if the Town
used no fund balance, noting that a $1 million carry
forward had been planned, as had the $1 million for
debt service.
Mayor Foy asked what the fund balance would be without
using anything but the $2 million that the Town had
already planned to use. Ms. Johnson replied
that there was a roughly $9 million unreserved fund
balance at the end of last year. Mayor Foy ascertained
that using another $2 million would bring the balance down to
about $7 million (approximately 15 percent), which would
protect the Town�s bond rating. He verified that if the
Town chose to use the $2 million the priority additions would
still cost about five cents on the tax rate.
Mayor Foy commented that the message from the staff
was that the Council needed to prioritize, as they
had in the past, and that there
would be greater difficulty this year when
trying to satisfy requests for funds.
Mayor pro tem Strom inquired about sources for the extra
$100,000. Ms. Johnson explained that
this money had been set aside for use. She
noted that Town departments had been asked
to cut their budgets and had been given a
dollar figure to which they would be held.
Mr. Stancil explained that $2 million was a planned
appropriation of the fund balance. The $2.1
million that could be applied to the gap between revenues
and expenditures was in addition to that $2 million, he
said.
Mayor pro tem Strom verified with Ms. Johnson that she had
arrived at the $2.1 million figure
after asking department heads to reduce their
budgets. Mr. Stancil added that the Town would
recommend that it be applied to one-time expenditures
and the Council�s priorities.
Council Member Harrison asked if there were any bonds
left to issue for open space or for sidewalks
and traffic calming. Ms. Johnson replied that
there was available bond money left for
sidewalks, street calming, and so forth. However,
the Town had issued all of the bonds that voters had
authorized for public buildings energy bonds and for open
space, she said, adding that there was a little more than
$200,000 remaining for open space.
Karen DeHart, representing the High School Athletic
Association, asked for continued support from the Town. There
had been a decline in the number of events being held in the
community due to recent issues, she said. Ms. DeHart
said the Association had been able to keep about 15 events
in the Chapel Hill and Orange County areas.
Mayor Foy announced that Council Member Ward and Mayor pro tem
Strom had met with members of the High School Athletic
Association staff, the Chamber of Commerce, and Orange
County Commissioner Chairman Moses Cary. They had
discussed the increase in funding that would be required
to keep the Association�s headquarters in Town and to
bring some championship events back to Chapel Hill, he
said. Mayor Foy explained that the group
had made a commitment to find funds from sources
other than the Town to accomplish this.
Council Member Kleinschmidt ascertained from Ms.
DeHart that the Association needed funds from
the Economic Development Fund and that this would come
from the hotel/motel tax.
Council Member Thorpe asked if there was anyone from
Chapel Hill on the Association�s board of directors. Ms.
DeHart replied that there was not and she explained their
bylaws formula. Council Member Thorpe said he would
have a hard time giving away taxpayers� money without
there being a representative from Chapel Hill on the
board.
Whitney Kuhn, with the Chapel Hill-Carrboro YMCA,
requested Community Block Development Grant (CDBG) funds
for the after school program at the YMCA.
Traci Davenport, director of the Chapel Hill Museum,
announced a permanent exhibit beginning in October
2007 to celebrate the history of Franklin
Street. She reviewed the plan, described fund-raising
efforts, and requested $15,000 and $10,000 from the
2007-08 and 2008-09 fiscal budgets, respectively.
Michael Donaldson, representing The Franklin Hotel,
discussed tourism in Town and noted that the average
occupancy in Chapel Hill was 60 percent. That means the
Town was not making money on the remaining 40
percent, he said, and he pointed out that his
request was low when compared to similar
budgets in nearby towns. Mr. Donaldson also spoke on
behalf of hospitality
employees, asking that they be
given more consideration in Town
discussions.
Robert Dowling, director of Orange Community Housing and
Land Trust (OCHLT), requested a $29,000 increase in
funding from the Town to be used for a property
manager to maintain 125 properties and those that
would be added in the future.
Daniel Prendergast, general manager of the New
Residence Inn by Marriott, asked the Council to raise
its allocation to the Chapel Hill Carrboro Visitors
Bureau by 1 percent, from $85,000 to $125,000 of gross
hotel collections.
Susan Levy, representing Habitat for Humanity, spoke
about CDBG and HOME allocations for affordable
housing. She said the HOME Consortium had supported
Habitat�s request for $250,000 for second mortgages for 12
homes. The total budget for those 12 homes
was $1,235,000, or just over $100,000 per home, with an
expected market value of $125,000 to $155,000, Ms. Levy
said.
Ms. Levy explained that $929,000 of the total (or 75
percent of funding) would come from sources
other than local government. So, HOME funds, and
the other funds that would be provided locally, would
be leveraged four to one, she said. Ms. Levy told
the Council that Habitat had also requested $150,000
in CDBG funds for infrastructure costs for a
subdivision where Habitat hopes to build at least 30
single family homes and also partner with the Land Trust and
EmPowerment to build another 20. The total budget
for that project is $3.9 million and local government funding
projections, if all Habitat�s applications are successful,
would account for about 35 percent of that, she
said. Ms. Levy also expressed hope that the
Rogers Road Small Area Plan would take shape by the
spring of next year.
Delores Bailey, director of EmPowerment Inc., reviewed
EmPowerment�s history and activities and requested $50,000 from
the Town�s 2007-08 general budget for operating
expenses.
Mark Sherbourne, chair of the Chapel Hill-Orange County
Visitor Bureau, requested Town support for additional
funding for marketing initiatives for the hospitality
industry.
Laurie Paliocelli, director of Chapel Hill-Orange County
Visitors Bureau, asked for $125,000, which would be a 1
percent increase in Town support. With 40
percent unoccupied rooms, she said, there was a need for new
audiences. Ms. Paliocelli noted that every new
person increase in occupancy yields $400,000 in additional
room revenue for the Town. She said they were
aiming for a 10 percent increase, which would yield $4 million.
Mayor Foy noted that Ms. Johnson had characterized some
things as one-time expenses and others
as ongoing expenses and had said it was appropriate
to use fund balance for one-time expenses. He
asked if at least some of the contributions to
agencies (a $740,000 expenditure) could be moved to
the one-time characterization. Ms. Johnson
replied that doing that would be possible,
and Mayor Foy suggested thinking about some of them
as one-time expenditures.
Council Member Harrison asked about the relationship between
two lists for additions to staff. Mr. Stancil
explained that some of the positions were those
that the Council had prioritized at
its retreat. He was proposing that they receive the
highest attention, he said, adding that it would be
somewhat unlikely, given the state of the Town�s financial
condition, that other positions would be moved to that
list.
Mayor pro tem Strom said he wanted to think about those
positions a bit more. He asked Ms. Johnson
about current development fees and other revenue
sources. Ms. Johnson replied that the Town was
not collecting the full cost of the services provided
by some development fees. She said that
Town departments had been asked to look at their
fees.
Mayor pro tem Strom noted that development applications
had been coming in that differed from those in
the past. The Town might be in a stronger
position to pay fees that represent the full cost of the
service, he said. Mayor pro tem Strom asked for
more information regarding Town contributions to
Orange County programs, such as senior centers.
He wondered if there was a way to push that
obligation back to Orange County. Mayor pro tem
Strom noted that the Town no longer had a seat on the
JOCCA Board. He wondered if
the Town should continue making that
contribution, he said. Mayor pro tem Strom said
that he would have some recommendations for
changes to the CIP when it comes up at the next Budget Work
Session.
Mayor Foy pointed out that Parks and
Recreation showed the greatest percentage change in
its budget of any department. He
said about $280,000 of that was from the Aquatics Center
and the Community Center. However, even without that amount, it
is still almost a 10 percent increase from last year�s
budget, said Mayor Foy. Ms.
Johnson offered to separate out
those costs for the next Budget Work
Session.
Mayor Foy commented that Chapel Hill would be operating the
Aquatics Center for the entire County, just as it
had with the Town Library. He remarked that this
was a big burden on the Town.
With regard to EmPowerment�s request for $50,000,
Mayor Foy noted that they had received a HOME grant for
$250,000. He asked if EmPowerment could
use $50,000 of that grant for administrative expenses rather
than receiving it from the Town.
Housing and Neighborhood Services Coordinator Loryn Clark
replied that HOME funds could be used for operating
expenses in some circumstances. She said it
was possible that EmPowerment could tie their request
to administrative costs for implementing certain
projects. Ms. Clark explained that
EmPowerment would have to make the request to Orange
County and discuss it with the HOME Consortium to
clarify that use of the funds. The $250,000
was specifically tied to development-related costs,
but it is possible that they could reallocate their
request, Ms. Clark said.
Mayor Foy asked Ms. Clark to work with Dolores Baily
on that.
Council Member Greene mentioned a letter from Orange
County Commissioner Moses Carey regarding a request for funding
for the Homelessness 10-Year Plan. She asked
Ms. Johnson if this had been included in the Town�s
budget, and Ms. Johnson replied that it had not.
Council Member Greene noted that the plan had been adopted by
the County, which would be asking the four government
bodies to contribute to first year funding for a director for
the plan. Since the Council had endorsed the plan, she
wanted to nominate it as a priority budget item, she said.
Mayor Foy commented that this needed to be on
the table for further discussion. He said The
Downtown Partnership had requested $85,000 from the
Town. They had a commitment of $85,000 from
UNC, and the Town needed to calculate in $85,000 from the
development district tax, he said.
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Mayor pro tem Strom verified, with regard to the base
budget, that the increase in fleet use charges was
"real money" and was related to increased Public Works
expenses. He also requested more information
about Carrboro�s consideration of limiting long term
liability for health insurance in order to save costs
over time.
Mayor Foy commented that the $45 million figure
seemed "alarming" when he read it. He asked Ms.
Johnson to explain it to the Council
and public. Ms. Johnson replied that there
had been a change in accounting standards and that the
actuary had calculated retiree health
benefits differently based on assumptions about
the future. She said the number
could change based on different
assumptions.
Mayor Foy noted that the figure would
vary each time the actuary calculates it
because the variables will change.
He ascertained from Ms. Johnson that the Town�s
insurance was not capped by date or time of Medicare as
some other agencies are. Mayor Foy asked why the Town would
not simply provide Medigap and let Medicare be the primary
insurer. Ms. Johnson replied that doing so was a
choice that the Town had not historically made.
Council Member Hill verified that the $45 million
was the liability for the life span of the
Town�s current group. He ascertained from Ms.
Johnson that this amount was
higher than other municipalities because the
Town�s retiree plan is better than others and because many
employees have stayed for a long time.
Mayor Foy asked why it was a better plan, and Ms. Johnson
clarified the the Town�s health insurance was a very good
benefit for retirees.
Council Member Hill recommended examining this, adding
that it did not make sense to continue a
plan that costs more if there is no real benefit.
Mayor pro tem Strom suggested considering different
scenarios and what their implications would be.
He mentioned that the employee health liability line
item of $560,000 seemed like an option this year, adding
that this would be almost a penny on the tax rate.
Ms. Johnson replied that acknowledging the liability and
having a plan to address it is essential if the Town wants
to continue being favorably perceived by the bond rating
agencies. She said at least a short term plan
and a plan to reevaluate later is the minimum that the
Council should do. In response to a question by
Mayor pro tem Strom, Ms. Johnson explained that
many other local governments had elected to
continue "pay-as-we-go" for the time being. She said,
however, that since Chapel Hill�s liability is larger
than some of theirs she would recommend making a
commitment to funding in some
fashion.
Mayor Foy verified with Ms. Johnson that the base
budget under Personnel included basic pay, direct benefits
to employees, retiree health benefits, current year
health benefits, current year workers compensation,
and unemployment insurance. He asked her to
break those numbers out for the Council, and she
agreed to bring that back at the next Council
meeting.
Council Member Kleinschmidt clarified that $45 million is
what the Town would have to pay out in the course of the
retirement lives of the current retirees and current
employees in their retirement lives. The liability
would go up if the number of employees increased, he
said.
Ms. Johnson explained that the $5.6 million
figure, which includes current year, or normal, costs,
was important to the Council in terms of what the
actuary calculated for the cost for this
year. She said it was the Town�s choice whether
to fund any, all, or some of that.
Council member Kleinschmidt asked how the $5.6 million is
an expense if it is not being spent. Ms. Johnson
explained that only $600,000 of that (for people who are
currently retired) needed to be paid out in cash, but
the rest must be shown in the Town�s financial
statements.
The Council discussed various factors
that would change the numbers.
Mr. Stancil noted that the Town had not erred in
any way and that the only change had been
in accounting standards. The expense issue
was changing from a modified accrual basis to a full
accrual basis, he said, explaining that this means
that an expense is an expense when it is incurred and
not when you spend it. That is why the Town has some
flexibility in how to address it, Mr. Stancil said,
emphasizing that what matters to the bond rating
agencies is that the Town have a plan for dealing with
that.
Mayor pro tem Strom asked the staff to look into other
alternatives that would affect future employees but not current
employees.
Ms. Johnson emphasized that the Town should have a
plan, possibly a short-term plan.
In response to questions by Council Member Ward, Ms. Johnson
explained that the Town had an exceptionally high bond rating
when compared to other towns and that the rating is based
on overall good management and fiscal policies. Changing
any one factor would not jeopardize the Town�s bond
rating, she said, adding that having a retirement plan
is the most essential part.
Mayor Foy asked about a $29,000 increase for a
property manager that OCHLT had requested. He
wondered if there was a way to adjust a $640,000
fund to include that $29,000.
Mayor Foy asked to see the 15-year spreadsheet
concerning capital improvements. He also inquired
about the $300,000 courthouse renovation. Ms.
Johnson replied that discussions were not complete on what
would happen to the courthouse so this is a holding number
for possible renovations.
Mr. Heflin explained that the Town had deferred a
renovation project for a number of years, awaiting a
decision about future uses of the building. He
said some of the repairs would have to be done
regardless of who the tenant was. Mayor Foy verified that
this would be clear in the 15-year breakdown of the
plan.
Council Member Hill asked about renovations to Town Hall,
and Mr. Heflin outlined some of those.
Council Member Kleinschmidt ascertained from Ms.
Johnson that last year�s and this year�s totals for the
performance agreement were exactly the same and that,
right now, the budget was showing total contributions to
the Public Arts Commission and other agencies as flat with
last year.
Council Member Thorpe verified that the
Town�s internship program had been included in
the budget at the same funding as last year.
Mayor Kevin Foy MOVED, SECONDED BY Council
Member Jim Ward, TO refer comments to the Manager and
Attorney. THE MOTION WAS ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY (9-0).
Council Member Mark Kleinschmidt MOVED,
SECONDED BY Council Member Bill Thorpe, TO Enter Into Closed
Session as authorized by North Carolina General Statue Section
143-318.11(a)(5), to discuss possible acquisition of real estate
adjacent to the Town Operations Center site. THE MOTION WAS
ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY (9-0).
The meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.