MINUTES OF A PUBLIC HEARING HELD BY
THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL, NORTH CAROLINA, MONDAY,
APRIL 19, 1993
Mayor Broun called
the meeting to order. Council Members
in attendance were Julie Andresen, Joyce Brown, Joe Capowski, Mark Chilton, Joe
Herzenberg, Barbara Powell, Alan Rimer and Arthur Werner. Also in attendance were Town Manager Cal
Horton, Assistant Town Managers Sonna Loewenthal and Florentine Miller,
Planning Director Roger Waldon and Town Attorney Ralph Karpinos.
Noting that the Apple
Chill street festival had been successful and enjoyable, Mr. Horton stated that
as the street fair was closing down, a crowd including gang members gathered
between parking lot number five and Ham's Restaurant. He said that gang members discharged automatic weapons into the
air or toward the ground, injuring at least two persons. Mr. Horton reported that a total of four
persons were arrested for possession of drugs or weapons. He said that the Town's Police Department
had done a good job of restoring order in the area. Mr. Horton suggested that the Council might wish to discuss ways
to reduce the potential for this type of incident in the future.
Council Member
Capowski inquired whether the gang activities were tied to the Town's Apple
Chill and Festifall street fairs. Mr.
Horton said he believed that gatherings of this type would occur regardless of
whether or not the festivals took place.
Noting that the events of early Sunday evening were tragic, Mayor Broun
said it would be equally tragic if Apple Chill or Festifall were negatively
impacted by these events. Expressing
alarm about persons carrying weapons, Council Member Andresen said she would be
interested in the Manager and Attorney developing strategies or policies to
discourage the carrying of weapons. Mr.
Horton said the Council had made a strong commitment to regulate the use of
firearms in the community. He stated
that these ordinances made it possible to make the arrests for weapons
violations on Sunday evening. Mr.
Horton noted that it was not possible nor legal to search every car and person.
Council Member
Herzenberg noted that State Representative Mickey Michaux had introduced gun
control legislation in the General Assembly.
He requested that the Manager distribute a copy of the proposed bill to
the Council. Council Member Rimer
inquired about the possibility of using loitering ordinances to disburse
crowds. Mr. Horton said anti-loitering
laws tended to be constitutionally treacherous. Mr. Karpinos expressed his concurrence. Council Member Capowski inquired whether it was fair to
characterize the persons at Sunday night's disturbance as being young and from
out of town. Mr. Horton said this was
correct. He added that there was
general agreement among the Town's police officers that seventy-five to eighty
percent of the persons involved in the incident were from out-of-town.
Council Member Werner
inquired about the Town's public safety relationship with the City of Durham. Noting that he had spoken to Durham City
Manager Orville Powell earlier in the day, Mr. Horton said efforts were being
made to restore old working relationships.
Council Member Brown inquired about working relations with Alamance
County. Mr. Horton said although
Alamance County officials were always very generous in assisting with community
events, he did not know about the status of specific daily interactions between
the two departments.
Council Member
Chilton said he had heard from a number of constituents present at the incident
had expressed their appreciation for the positive manner in which the situation
was handled. Council Member Powell said
she had heard similarly positive comments from constituents. She also expressed concern about persons
bringing potentially vicious dogs to the Town's street fairs. Council Member Powell inquired about the
possibility of having officers from area Police departments attend future
community events to identify familiar persons.
Mr. Horton said this was a good
idea which could be further explored.
Council Member Herzenberg noted that the Town had a policy prohibiting
dogs (excluding seeing eye guide dogs) at the Town's street fairs. He also said that signs to this effect had
been posted at Apple Chill. Mayor Broun requested that Mr. Horton convey the
Council's thanks to the Police Department for the department's handling of the
incident.
Noting that her
septic system had failed several weeks ago, Judy Bergman, a Mount Bolus Drive
resident, said the area's sewer management system was not working. Ms. Bergman said Orange Water and Sewer
Authority (OWASA) staff had estimated initial Mount Bolus infrastructure
improvements to be $350,000 or about $6,000 per household plus OWASA attachment
fees. She stated that estimated fees
per homeowner would be $10,000 to $13,000 plus acreage, plumbing and hook-up
fees. Ms. Bergman said similar fees in
Raleigh and Durham totalled $4,000 to $5,000 per household. Stating that Mount Bolus Road residents had
paid $60,000 to $80,000 in water and sewer taxes over the past decade, she
presented a petition requesting the Council's assistance in reducing sewer
hook-up fees for the area's residents.
Council Member
Andresen requested that the Manager provide a follow-up report on the possible
use of water and sewer tax proceeds for water and sewer projects. Noting the broad scope of water and sewer
service problems, Council Member Andresen said many agencies would need to work
together to adequately address the situation.
She requested that the Manager recommend a process for initiating
discussions with Orange County, OWASA and the Town of Carrboro on problems of
this type. Mayor Broun emphasized the
importance of moving ahead as quickly as possible on water and sewer service
concerns. Council Member Herzenberg
inquired about the nature of the Mount Bolus sewer service item on OWASA's
upcoming agenda. Mr. Horton said the
board would consider alternate resolutions concerning engineering design and
setting cost ceilings for the Mount Bolus project.
Noting the importance
of moving ahead expeditiously with water and sewer service concerns, Council
Member Werner suggested holding a meeting with OWASA during the next four to
six weeks. Council Member Andresen said
OWASA board members were expecting to meet with the Council in the near
future. Council Member Brown inquired
whether health and safety issues were also involved. Mr. Horton said yes.
Council Member Capowski also suggested that the Council discuss the
Town's concerns about sprinkler fees at the joint meeting. Council Member Andresen said water and sewer
service availability problems were quite extensive. She noted that the County's Environmental Health department would
attempt to assist with major health-related problems and make recommendations.
Item 1
Timber Hollow SUP Modification/Latter Day Saints SUP
Persons wishing to
testify in the matter were sworn by the Town Clerk. Mr. Horton requested that application materials and comments be
entered into the record of the hearings.
Mayor Broun concurred.
Noting that the
Timber Hollow special use permit had been approved in 1985, Planning Director
Roger Waldon provided an overview of the application and related issues. Mr. Waldon requested that his comments apply
to both hearings. He said the applicant
was requesting the release a portion of the Timber Hollow special use permit to
construct a worship building for the Church of Latter Day Saints. Mr. Waldon said the staff's preliminary
recommendation was approval of the requests.
He noted that there had been considerable discussion at the Planning
Board's hearing concerning the connection of Mendel Drive and a five-foot
bicycle and pedestrian pathway.
Council Member
Herzenberg inquired whether any of the Timber Hollow apartments had Mendel
Drive street addresses. Mr. Waldon said
staff could investigate this matter.
Council Member Andresen inquired about steep slopes on the site. Mr. Waldon reviewed steeply sloped areas,
especially along a creek running the northern boundary of the site. Council Member Capowski inquired whether 250
parking spaces was adequate to accommodate a facility with 1,000 seats. Mr. Waldon said he believed that this would
be adequate parking on the basis of discussions with the applicant. Council Member Capowski inquired whether
water and sewer service was available to the site. Mr. Waldon said service was available. Council Member Werner said he hoped that persons in attendance
realized that the Council generally did not support the proposal to connect
Mendel Drive.
Phil Post, the
applicant's representative, indicated that only one of the two phases of the
Timber Hollow project had been built.
He stated that required site improvements for both phases of the Timber
Hollow, including widening of Airport and Piney Mountain Roads, had been completed. Mr. Post stated that in 1985 the Council had
approved a special use permit which did not call for the connection of Mendel
Drive. He expressed concern that
changing prior special use permit conditions would set a bad precedent for the
Council. Council Member Capowski
inquired whether the Church of Latter Day Saints would be responsible for site
improvements. Mr. Post said no, noting
that Timber Hollow no longer owned the property adjoining the apartments. Mr. Post added that the applicant requested
that the Council approve Resolution A and eliminate the special use permit for
Timber Hollow Phase II.
Planning Board Member
Martin Rody said the Board had reviewed the project at great length. Mr. Rody also said the Planning Board and
Council had philosophical differences on roadway connections. He suggested that the Council and Planning
Board could possibly jointly discuss these concerns in the future. Mr. Rody noted that the Board felt it would be difficult for
emergency vehicles to enter and exit Forest Creek Drive. He said the Board recommended adoption of
Resolution B.
Noting that the
Council had discussed the policy issue of road connections many times, Council
Member Andresen said she looked forward to jointly discussing Planning Board
concerns. She stated that Council's
policy was not to ask existing neighborhoods to handle additional traffic. Council Member Rimer said putting a road
through the existing neighborhood would be a manifest error. He said the matter of a pedestrian/bicycle
way connection merited additional discussion and consideration.
Jeffrey Krolik said
he had recently purchased a home at the corner of Mendel and Forest Creek
Drives. Noting that a previous Council
had prohibited the connection of Mendel Drive, Mr. Krolik said the Planning
Board's recommendation for connection of the roadway did not cite any benefits
accruing from the proposed connection.
He expressed concern that connecting Mendel Drive would inevitably
result in a decrease in safety and quality of life in his neighborhood. Mr. Krolik said he favored leaving matters
as they were concerning street and pedestrian connections.
Robert E. Doherty,
308 Old Forest Creek Drive, said he was surprised to read that the Planning
Board was recommending the connection of Mendel Drive to Old Forest Creek Drive.
Mr. Doherty said he had been assured that there were no plans to extend Mendel
Drive. He stated that the overwhelming
majority of area residents opposed the extension of Mendel Drive. Mr. Doherty said he had not previously heard
about the proposed pedestrian connection of Mendel and Old Forest Creek Drives.
John Devine expressed
his concurrence with Mr. Krolik's and Mr. Doherty's remarks.
Bree Laurel said she
did not favor any type of improvement including a bicycle path.
Esther Majathan said
there was an existing unpaved pedestrian connection between Mendel and Old
Forest Creek Drives. Ms. Majathan
showed several slides of the natural beauty and landscaping in the area. She stated that the existing pedestrian way
adequately served the needs of all area residents.
Council Member Rimer
inquired whether the path became muddy during rainy periods. Ms. Majathan said yes, noting that Chapel
Hill gravel or French drains might be used to mitigate this situation. Council Member Brown inquired about the
rationale for the proposed paved pedestrian and bicycle pathway between Mendel
and Old Forest Creek Drives. Mr. Horton
said the suggestion was made to facilitate use of the path during wet weather
periods. Council Member Brown requested
additional information on using Chapel Hill gravel for the pathway. Mr. Horton said this information could be
provided. Council Member Rimer
requested that staff investigate the possibility of using other natural
materials for the pathway.
Council Member
Capowski inquired about the possibility of requiring the Church of Latter Days
Saints making additional site improvements.
Mr. Horton said he was not sure there were ways to require additional
improvements. Mr. Karpinos said staff
could provide additional information in its follow-up report. Mayor Broun said he favored keeping the area
as natural as possible. Council Member Herzenberg said if there were no street
addresses on Mendel Drive, it might make sense to change the street's
name. Esther Majathan noted that one
section of the road was spelled Mendel while the other was spelled Mendal Drive
on street signs. Noting that he
realized the applicant was opposed to additional site requirements, Mayor Broun
said the central issue appeared to be whether a connecting pedestrianway would
be required. He inquired about the
applicant's sentiment on providing a pathway.
Mr. Post said this condition might be added to the Latter Day Saints
application.
COUNCIL MEMBER RIMER
MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHILTON, TO RECESS THE HEARING AND REFER
COMMENTS TO THE MANAGER AND ATTORNEY.
THE MOTION WAS ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY (9-0).
Latter Day Saints
Application
Bryant Baker, the
applicant's representative, expressed appreciation for the Planning staff's
assistance throughout the review process.
Mr. Baker briefly reviewed the proposed project layout noting that
efforts would be made to limit disturbance on the site, including
steeply-sloped areas. He stated that
the church had several relatively small congregations, a number of which might
use the facility each Sunday. Mr. Baker
said the church was a regional center, with up to one thousand persons
attending some gatherings. He requested
that the Council approve the application with conditions.
Planning Board member
Martin Rody reviewed the Board's recommendations, noting that the Board
recommended adoption of Resolution B.
Council Member
Capowski inquired whether there were existing sidewalks and bicycle paths along
the Airport Road property frontage. Mr.
Post said an eight-foot wide joint bicycle path and sidewalk was in front of
the property. Council Member Brown
inquired about proposed site grading and storage. Mr. Baker said site grading would be minimal. Council Member Andresen said she was
especially interested in erosion control relative to creek running through the
proposed site. Alan Ritz, the project's
civil engineer, said he had met with Orange County officials on the
matter. He said that site runoff would
be captured prior to being disbursed onto the remainder of the property. Council Member Rimer inquired whether the
applicant had considered alternatives to an asphalt-paved two hundred and fifty
space parking lot. Mr. Ritz said an
oversized subsurface drainage system would be used to detain water below
ground. He added that strategies to
disturb less of the site area would be used.
Council Member Rimer said he would be interested in seeing the
applicant's final plans. Mayor Broun
inquired whether the applicant agreed to the proposed conditions of
approval. Mr. Baker said yes.
COUNCIL MEMBER RIMER
MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER POWELL, TO RECESS THE HEARING AND REFER
COMMENTS TO THE MANAGER AND ATTORNEY.
THE MOTION WAS ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY (9-0).
Item 2 Greybluff Subdivision
Persons wishing to
testify in the matter were sworn by the Clerk.
Mr. Horton requested that related materials be entered into the record
of the hearing. Mayor Broun concurred
with the request.
Planning Director
Roger Waldon reviewed the request for subdivision of 77 lots on 62 acres and
identified surrounding parcels. He said
the staff's preliminary recommendation was approval with conditions. Council Member Werner inquired about the
location of Rocky Hill relative to the proposed subdivision. Mr. Waldon pointed out the locations. He noted that the applicant did not concur
with the staff's recommendation concerning roadway and bicycle lane
improvements on Weaver Dairy Road.
Council Member Andresen inquired about the viability of further widening
Weaver Dairy Road in the area. Mr.
Waldon stated that Weaver Dairy Road was being widened in increments as
development occurred. He added that it
was not possible to accommodate travel and bicycle lanes along all areas of
Weaver Dairy Road. Mr. Waldon said the
staff recommended that the four feet for a bicycle lane could possibly be
achieved by narrowing twelve foot travel lanes to eleven feet. Council Member
Andresen asked whether this was predicated on a five-lane roadway. Mr. Waldon said this was correct. Council Member Rimer inquired whether the
ultimate plan was for a stubout in the Greybluff subdivision to connect Weaver
Dairy and Sage Roads. Mr. Waldon said
this was correct.
Bruce Ballentine said
the project was a composite of two individual tracts of land, with the proposed
subdivision located tangentially to Chesley subdivision, Section V. He said that an eventual tie-in to Sage Road
was anticipated. Mr. Ballentine stated
that it would be possible to save on grading and asphalt while making necessary
improvements to Weaver Dairy Road. He
briefly reviewed plans for modifying existing roadway cross-sections in a
manner similar to standards used by the Town of Carrboro for bicycle
lanes. Council Member Andresen inquired
whether Department of Transportation approval would be needed for modification
of roadway width standards. Mr.
Ballentine said yes. Council Member
Andresen said she hoped that the Department of Transportation would be flexible
in this regard. Mr. Ballentine
requested that the Council adopt Resolution A.
Planning Board member
Martin Rody said the Board recommended additional bicycle lane paving along
Weaver Dairy Road and the provision of greenway space by the applicant. He stated the Board recommended approval of
the request with conditions.
Scott Radway
expressed concern about the inadequacy of proposed sidewalk and recreation land
requirements. He urged the Council to
require that the applicant provide a recreation area and sidewalks.
Council Member
Andresen said she favored examining the idea of locating a sidewalk on the
Cedar Falls Park side of Weaver Dairy Road.
Mr. Radway said the applicant's logic for requesting an exemption from
recreation area requirements was that there was such an area located
nearby. Mr. Radway said he favored the
applicant making a payment-in-lieu for a recreation area and preserving
recreation areas on the site. Council
Member Andresen requested that staff explore how this might be accommodated.
Council Member Werner
requested additional information on proposed greenways in the area. Mr. Waldon reviewed greenway proposals
noting that the topography of Weaver Dairy Road was somewhat steep in some
areas making construction of a greenway path problematic in some areas. Council Member Werner inquired about the
possibility of connecting the greenway path to the proposed Rocky Hill
greenway. Sally Jessee said the area
was walkable and could possibly be connected via a greenway path. Ms. Jessee also noted that approximately
3,000 feet of sidewalk had been constructed along the south side of Weaver
Dairy Road. Council Member Werner asked
whether sidewalk would terminate at the new parking lot in Cedar Falls Park. Ms. Jessee said yes. Mr. Horton said staff could provide
follow-up information on sidewalks.
Noting that property
in the Resource Conservation District (RCD) had been deeded as part of the
Town's greenway system, Council Member Capowski inquired whether protection was
being given to an area which was already protected from development. Mr. Waldon said building was precluded in
the RCD located along the creek on the site.
Council Member Capowski inquired how the Resource Conservation District
was taken into account when calculating recreation space requirements. Mr. Waldon said it was not taken into
account. Council Member Andresen
inquired how creek road crossings would be addressed. Mr. Waldon said the road would generally follow the contours of
the creek except at the crossing point.
Mr. Ballentine said a typical stream crossing was proposed. Council
Member Andresen inquired whether the stream would be preserved in its present
form. Mr. Ballentine said stream
preservation was proposed except at the road crossing. Council Member Andresen said she was
especially concerned about the proposed stream crossing. Council Member Andresen said she realized
the crossing was difficult to accomplish without disturbing the area.
Council Member Werner
inquired about the proposal for 1.4 acres of greenway along I-40. Mr. Waldon said this idea had been promoted
by the Greenways Commission along the I-40 corridor. Council Member Werner inquired whether future greenways connections
were proposed. Mr. Waldon said yes,
adding that a continuous connection was not proposed. Mr. Ballentine added that Parks and Recreation staff had spoken
to the North Carolina Department of Transportation about the possibility of
locating a bikeway inside a buffer along I-40.
Council Member Werner requested follow-up information on the proposed
walking and bicycle trails. He also
inquired about the project's stormwater drainage plan. Mr. Ballentine said stormwater would flow
under Erwin Road to Eastowne and eventually into New Hope Creek. Council Member Werner said he favored
four-foot bicycle lanes on the roadway as required for Rocky Hill.
Mayor Broun inquired
whether the applicant agreed to the proposed conditions of approval. Sally Jessee said yes.
COUNCIL MEMBER RIMER
MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ANDRESEN, TO RECESS THE HEARING AND REFER THE
MATTER TO THE MANAGER AND ATTORNEY. THE
MOTION WAS ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY (9-0).
Item 3 Hardee's SUP Modification
Persons wishing to
testify in the matter were sworn by the Clerk.
Mr. Horton requested that application materials be entered into the
hearing's record. Mr. Waldon reviewed
the proposal to retrofit a drive-through service window on the site. He stated that buffering would be provided
along U.S. 15-501 and Old Durham Road.
Council Member
Andresen inquired about the proposed footprints of the existing and proposed
buildings. Mr. Waldon said the existing
building was more of a square building located closer to Old Durham Road. Council Member Andresen noted that the Town
had a policy of not permitting drive-through windows in the downtown area. Mr. Waldon said staff could provide
additional information on the Council's drive-through window policies in the
follow-up report. Council Member
Capowski asked whether there was a pedestrian cut-through on the site. Mr. Waldon said a retaining wall precluded
cut-throughs. Council Member Rimer said
some steps and a walkway could possibly be put in the vicinity of the retaining
wall. He added that tractor-trailer
trucks tended to tear up berms and roadsides.
Council Member Rimer said this situation was both unsightly and
dangerous. Council Member Werner
inquired about the proximity of the exit onto the service road to the
intersection of Old Durham Road and U.S. 15-501. Mr. Waldon said this could be measured. Council Member Rimer requested that applicants put a visual scale
on maps. Council Member Werner inquired
about pedestrian traffic from Blue Cross-Blue Shield to the restaurant. Mr. Waldon said there was no sidewalk along
this part of the road.
Council Member
Andresen asked whether neighboring property owners were informed of the
proposed change. Mr. Waldon said the
Town's standard development notification procedures had been followed.
Phil Post,
representing the applicant, said the Appearance Commission had recommended the
addition of a rock wall for decorative purposes. He also noted that Transportation Board had made recommendations
concerning handicapped access for the site.
Mr. Post said the applicant urged the Council to adopt Resolution
A. He added that a hardscaped edge and
no parking would be used to minimize problems with tractor-trailer trucks
parking along the edge of U.S. 15-501.
Mr. Post expressed his appreciation for the staff's and advisory board's
constructive comments.
Council Member Werner
inquired about the proposed number of parking spaces. Mr. Post said thirty-six spaces were proposed. Council Member Andresen requested that staff
provide a map of the intersection of Old Durham Road and U.S. 15-501 in the
follow-up report. She noted that
opening the service road might contribute to the difficulty of traversing the
area's intersections. Council Member
Rimer said the driveway into the service road was about 180 feet, allowing the
stacking of six to eight cars. He
stated that this stacking distance took into account the Council's previous
recommendations.
Council Member Brown
said she thought the entire intersection, with the exception of Hardee's, was a
difficult one. Noting that it was
difficult to turn left or go straight at the intersection, Council Member Brown
requested information concerning recent accidents at the intersection. Mr. Post noted that part of the plan was to
double the size of Old Durham Road to reduce area congestion.
Council Member
Capowski inquired how tractor-trailer truck deliveries would be made to the
building. Mr. Post said the site was
designed for good maneuvering room in and out of the site. Council Member Werner said he favored the
proposed improvements. He expressed
concern about left turns off U.S. 15-501 onto the service road. Mr. Post said nothing was proposed to help
or hurt this situation.
Planning Board member
Martin Rody said the proposed roadway improvements were very good ones. He said that the staff ought to examine the
intersection carefully. Mr. Rody said
the Board recommended adoption of Resolution B.
Pat Carstensen,
Vice-President of the Cross-County Communities Association, thanked the
Planning staff, Planning Board and Hardee's, the applicant, for sticking with
the review process. Council Member
Rimer inquired whether it would be possible to give the service road in front
of the site to Hardee's. Mr. Horton
said he suspected that the Department of Transportation would prefer to hold
onto right-of-way in the area. Mr. Post
said the applicant accepted the proposed conditions of approval.
COUNCIL MEMBER RIMER
MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERZENBERG, THE MOTION WAS ADOPTED
UNANIMOUSLY (9-0).
The hearing concluded
at 10:38 p.m.