MINUTES OF A PUBLIC HEARING OF THE
CHAPEL HILL TOWN COUNCIL
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 1993
AT 7:30 P.M.
Mayor Ken Broun called
the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
Council Members in attendance were Julie Andresen, Joyce Brown, Joe
Capowski, Mark Chilton, Joe Herzenberg, Barbara Booth Powell, and Art
Werner. Council Member Alan Rimer was
absent excused. Also in attendance were
present were Acting Town Manager Sonna Loewenthal, Long Range Coordinator Chris
Berndt, Development Coordinator Jennie Bob Culpepper and Town Attorney Ralph
Karpinos.
Item 1 Comprehensive Housing Assistance Program
Ms. Berndt stated that
the purpose of this evening's hearing was to receive citizen comments on the
community's housing goals. She said that notices had been sent to organizations
and individuals informing them of the hearing.
Ms. Berndt noted that comments made at the hearing would be considered
in developing an up-to-date housing plan.
Ms. Berndt said that
the Council had received materials outlining the currently adopted plan, and
that these materials would be updated.
She noted that the updated plans would incorporate 1990 census data so
we would have a better picture of the community's needs. Ms. Berndt emphasized that the Comprehensive
Housing Assistance Program was a joint effort of the Town, Orange County and
the Town of Carrboro. She said the next
step in the process would be to refer comments received tonight to the Manager
and the Housing and Community Development Advisory Board. Ms. Berndt added that other jurisdictions
were also holding hearings on proposed program. She also stated that a plan would then be developed for a joint
public hearing to be held on October 14th.
She said the ultimate goal was to prepare a plan which could be adopted
by all three jurisdictions.
Council Member
Andresen called attention to the discussion section of the staff's memorandum
outlining various goals of the proposed plan, including the provision of
homeownership opportunities to persons earning eighty percent or less of the
median income. She asked whether or not
this document fairly represented the conclusions of the previous Council work
session. Ms. Berndt said yes. She added that staff had examined a number
of housing rental and homeownership opportunity programs, including
transitional housing programs. Council
Member Andresen said she understood Ms. Berndt to be saying that staff would
develop goals utilizing comments at this evening's hearing. Ms. Berndt said
this was correct.
Charles Zimmerli,
representing the Orange County Affordable Housing Coalition, stated that the
group was formed after the 1992 Public Private Partnership meeting focusing on
housing matters. Mr. Zimmerli said he
felt that there was a need for a simple one-page summary explaining the
Comprehensive Housing Affordability Strategy and its objectives. He stated that the Orange County Affordable
Housing Coalition felt that there were three primary objectives: (1) funding
transitional housing for women and children and single room occupancy homes,
(2) provision of affordable rental
housing, and (3) fully funding a housing rehabilitation program. Mr. Zimmerli invited the Council to take a
tour of each the Town's public housing neighborhoods in order to evaluate
minimum standards of the units.
Douglas Parrish,
representing the Pine Knolls Housing Development Corporation, stated that the
Pine Knolls project was aimed at low-income families. He said the program gave families a chance to own their own homes. Mr. Parrish emphasized the importance of
volunteer support in making the program work.
Eva Metzger, Chair of
the Housing Committee of the Chapel Hill-Carrboro League of Women Voters,
stated that the National League of Women Voters had a policy of promoting
improvement in housing for low income families and individuals. She stated that the League recommended that
highest priority be placed on housing for the homeless, transitional housing
for single persons coming out of a shelter, and the availability of Section 8
funds. Ms. Metzger said people who were
able to pay market rents, with or without Section 8 aid, should be mainstreamed
into private housing. Ms. Metzger said
the Town needed much closer supervision of landlords who accepted Section 8
recipients, and that new public housing should be constructed as needed.
Barbara Cooper, a
volunteer at the Interfaith Council Community Shelter, express concern about
substandard living conditions in parts of Orange County. Ms. Cooper expressed concern that homeless
persons were sometimes mistreated. Ms.
Cooper said every effort should be made to find homes for homeless
persons. She said if landlords accepted
Section 8 funds, they should be held responsible for meeting all related
housing standards.
Glenda Worrell, a
public housing resident, said she wanted to own a home of her own. Ms. Worrell said she felt it was important
that the community help as much as possible in addressing the community's
housing needs.
Tim Williams, Adult
Services Coordinator for the Orange-Person-Chatham Mental Health Center, stated
that a majority of the program's clients could live independently with support
services. He said the single most
important consideration in making this work was the availability of safe and
affordable housing. Mr. Williams stated
that disabled person's incomes averaged less than one-third of the median
income, and that rents in the Town and County were too high. He also said the waiting lists for
subsidized housing were long and that many homes were unsafe or below minimum
housing standards. Mr. Williams
expressed concern that some landlords did not want to rent to disabled persons
or to Section 8 recipients. Mr.
Williams said his program conducted a survey which found that forty homes were
substandard and another ninety were inappropriate in one way or another. He said Orange-Person-Chatham (OPC) Mental
Health had developed thirteen housing units and planned to develop thirteen
more. Mr. Williams encouraged other
housing organizations to work with OPC Mental Health to solve the community's
housing problems. He also said the Town
could possibly waive development review fees and assign a Town staff member to
work with OPC in developing its housing objectives.
Karen Dunn, Director
of Club Nova, stated that she was especially concerned about adults with mental
illness. She said the mentally ill
deserved safe housing using Section 8 funds.
Ms. Dunn said many landlords would not accept Section 8 funds if it
entailed renting to mentally ill persons.
She said this issue needed to be addressed in the near future. Ms. Dunn said that rents are high in Chapel
Hill and it is hard to afford an apartment or house. She said this forces the mentally ill to live in substandard
housing.
Ed Hudgins referred to
a federal regulation, Section 202, which permitted money to be borrowed and
paid back in very small increments. He
stated this should be looked at as an option for the mentally ill and homeless.
Jackie Pottisall, a
resident of Carrboro, said she favored additional Section 8 housing
opportunities to provide decent and affordable housing.
Rosemary Hutchinson,
representing the Orange-Person-Chatham Foundation for Mental Health, said her
organization attempted to promote and fund housing for the mentally ill. She added that OPC Mental Health had
purchased thirteen apartments behind Club Nova and an additional group
home. Ms. Hutchinson stated there was a
great need for housing in the area. Ms.
Hutchinson said she favored the Town providing housing opportunities for
very-low income, mentally ill and physically disabled persons.
Mary Eldridge stated
that the mentally ill and disabled generally earned much lower incomes,
necessitating housing subsidies. Ms.
Eldridge said that Section 8 funding was only one answer to the community's
housing problems. She urged the Council
to request that the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development
raise fair market housing rent levels so that additional housing opportunities
could be provided to low-income persons.
Council Member Andresen inquired about the Town's current fair market
rent levels. Ms. Eldridge stated that
HUD's standard was thirty percent of income.
Gail Stern emphasized
the importance of building affordable rental housing for very low-income and elderly persons. She said these efforts should be geared to
persons whose incomes ranged between $12,000 and $30,000 for two or more
persons. Council Member Brown requested
additional information concerning Ms. Stern's ideas. Ms. Stern said she would provide this information.
Brenda Harris said
there was a lack of affordable housing for very low-income persons and the
problem was becoming worse. She said
although there had been many proposed projects, none of them had been implemented. Ms. Harris said many low-income families
were homeless or living in substandard housing. She said although these people were the working poor, they were
nonetheless homeless because rents were too high and salaries were too
low. Ms. Harris emphasized the
importance of providing housing opportunities for very low income families and
persons. She emphasized the need to
encourage builders to build more housing for the truly needy.
Peggy Pollitzer stated
that the community had tremendous needs for affordable rental units,
homeownership, and additional Section 8 housing. She said the traditional minority community was being eroded
because more people were becoming homeless and the student population was moving
into these areas. Ms. Pollitzer said
more subsidies were needed for low income families, and that southern Orange
County needed more affordable housing.
Ms. Pollitzer said housing needs of very low income persons had reached
the crisis stage. She said many
families lived at the homeless shelter because they could not afford to pay
rent in the community.
John Harper,
representing Orange County Habitat for Humanity, said he had been working with
Town staff on several affordable housing projects. He stated that taxes on a Habitat for Humanity house built in
Culbreth Park were approximately $117 per month. Expressing concern that residents could not afford these rates,
Mr. Harper requested verification of his figure. Mr. Harper said a typical Habitat for Humanity home cost
approximately $42,500 to construct. He
added that due to topographical and utility-related requirements, it was almost
impossible to construct homes in the Culbreth Park subdivision for this amount
of money. Mr. Harper stated that
property taxes in other communities were Habitat for Humanity constructed homes
averaged $33 per month. Noting the
Council's inability to waive or reduce tax rates on an individual case basis,
Council Member Werner inquired about Mr. Harper's proposed remedy. Mr. Harper replied that the Town could
provide additional housing subsidies.
Maxecine Mitchell, a
former public housing resident and current member of the Interfaith Council
Board of Directors, said she was fortunate to own a home constructed by Habitat
for Humanity. Ms. Mitchell strongly
encouraged the Town to provide housing assistance to families and persons
making less than $20,000 per year. She
suggested that the Town consider placing a ceiling on public housing rental
rates. Ms. Mitchell also requested that
the Council consider providing housing ownership subsidies to low income
families.
Joanne Shirer,
Vice-Chair of the Public Housing Residents Council, spoke on behalf of public
housing residents. She said public
housing living conditions needed improvement, including the installation of new
cabinetry. Noting that insects and
rodents were problematic in some apartments, Ms. Shirer urged the Town to
provide a higher level of pest control services. She also said many apartments needed painting inside and out and
residents should be able to paint their own apartments at public housing
expense. Ms. Shirer said maintenance
and community playgrounds were inadequate.
She said many children were playing in the streets due to inadequate
facilities. Ms. Shirer said appliances
in public housing units were of inferior quality. She also stated that smoke detectors did not always work and that
many glass doors required replacement.
Ms. Shirer said public housing residents should be hired to help
contractors perform work on their homes.
She emphasized the need to improve living conditions for all residents.
Virginia Barbee said
she was glad to see the level of interest in the provision low income
housing. Ms. Barbee also said she
thought that additional housing ownership and subsidy programs were
needed. She stated that programs of
this type might be helpful in preserving historically minority neighborhoods.
Council Member
Andresen and Mayor Broun requested that staff respond to citizen concerns
outlined this evening in their follow-up report to the Council.
Council Member Chilton
noted that the Town currently had several vacancies on the Housing and
Community Development Advisory Board.
Council Member Chilton encouraged interested parties to obtain an
application form from the Clerk's Office.
He also thanked all persons who had expressed their views on the
community's housing needs.
Council Member Powell
thanked the evening speakers for their remarks. Council Member Powell inquired how the Town might participate in
a new federal housing program for the elderly.
She noted that the program permitted federally-subsidized homes to be
constructed on land which had been donated by a friend or relative.
Council Member Werner
noted that the Council had explored the possibility of implementing
inclusionary zoning a number of years ago as a means to address some of the
community's housing Affordability problems.
He noted that this proposal had been rejected by the General Assembly. Council Member Werner urged the Council to
renew its efforts to receive enabling legislation for inclusionary zoning. He also noted that the IFC Community Shelter
was not adequately designed to accommodate the number of homeless women and
children needing the facility. Council
Member Werner suggested that the Council consider utilizing the former library
building as a homeless shelter for women and children.
Council Member Rimer
noted that the students in his City and Regional Planning class had found the
same public housing problems in their studies this year that had been reported
a year ago. He stated that painting
public housing units was a good maintenance practice. Council Member Rimer said he would be glad to provide the Council
with photographs of conditions at the Town's public housing units.
Council Member Brown
asked the staff for more information on the possibility of making State laws
pertaining to housing more flexible.
She also asked for additional information on the thirteen units of
housing built by Habitat for Humanity and HUD's Section 202 program.
Council Member
Herzenberg said that many excellent points had been made by this evening's
speakers. Council Member Herzenberg
also said it would be helpful to know more about problems with Section 8
housing and how the Town should approach these problems. He stated that the Council needed more
information on how to get more apartment complexes to administer Section 8
housing. Council Member Herzenberg
expressed hope that the Council would increase its commitment to transitional
housing programs. He also emphasized
the increasing need for the provision of housing for persons with AIDS.
Council Member Powell
requested that staff examine the possibility of placing a ceiling on public
housing rental rates so that tenants could begin saving for a home in the
private market.
Council Member
Andresen requested a status report on the feasibility study of some public
housing units being sold to the present residents.
Mayor Broun noted that
this evening's hearing had been the first significant input to the Council on
the housing needs of persons with physical and mental disabilities. He said that many important points had been
made this evening that were new to him, and they would need to be followed up
on by staff. Mayor Broun said he would
be very anxious to see a program in place that would give greater empowerment
to maintenance decisions made in setting priorities for maintenance of public
housing units.
COUNCIL MEMBER WERNER
MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHILTON, TO REFER COMMENTS TO THE
MANAGER. THE MOTION WAS ADOPTED
UNANIMOUSLY (9-0).
Item 2 Proposed Chapel Hill-Carrboro Boundary Agreement
Mayor Broun stated
that Council Members Andresen, Capowski and Herzenberg had served on a
committee with Carrboro Town staff to work on this agreement. He said their work had started in April,
1992 and had been completed during the summer.
Mayor Broun commented that when the Comprehensive Joint Planning
Agreement was signed there was a future annexation line drawn between the Towns
in the extraterritorial area, but there had been no annexation agreement for
the joint planning area. He said the
committee was charged with drawing this line.
Mayor Broun said the problem area was located along Smith Level
Road. He said the majority of the property
in question was in the Town's jurisdiction, but the owners wanted to be annexed
into the Town of Carrboro. He noted
that the committee was able to arrive at an amicably negotiated agreement.
Mayor Broun said the
Town's recommendation was to move the line a few hundred feet west to the
center line of Smith Level Road, but the Town of Carrboro wanted equal
territory gained if they were to give up this land. He noted that a compromise agreement was reached. Mayor Broun stated that the two towns were very
interested in future development along Smith Level Road and that the scenic
vistas should be preserved. He said the
planning staff negotiated an agreement with the North Carolina Department of
Transportation that Smith Level Road would be four lanes from the center of
town southward to Rock Haven Road but not beyond that point. Mayor Broun said the committee was
interested in seeing these scenic vistas preserved and the two-lane roadway
maintained.
Long Range Planning
Coordinator Chris Berndt said the purpose of this evening's hearing was to
consider a proposed annexation boundary agreement between Carrboro and the
Town. She said the agreement would be
for a period of twenty years and would permanently change the extraterritorial
jurisdiction line. Ms. Berndt said the
northern annexation line would remained unchanged. She said the southern
boundary line would begin to change south of the NC 54 Bypass. Ms. Berndt said the new agreement would
extend the line east of Smith Level Road and south of Culbreth Road all the way
to Chatham/Orange County line. She said
the line would shift two hundred and fifty feet west to the center of Smith
Level Road. Ms. Berndt noted that both
Carrboro and the Town were holding hearings on the proposed annexation boundary
line change. She said that staff hoped to prepare a follow-up item for
consideration at the Council's October 25th meeting. Ms. Berndt said if the proposed ordinance were adopted by the
Council, zoning of areas that would shift into the Town limits would be
considered on November 15 along with other zoning matters.
Livy Ludington said
she was representing the Smith Level Alliance, a group of people residing along
Smith Level Road. Ms. Ludington said
she had been in touch with Carrboro and Town staff and supported the
committee's work to date, but was concerned about the widening of Smith Level
from Rock Creek to Starpoint. Ms.
Ludington she was concerned that this portion of Smith Level Road was the
eastern perimeter of the University Lake watershed and that this was a
sensitive area needing protection. Ms.
Ludington expressed concern about disturbing these scenic vistas and applauded
the committee's care in this regard. Ms.
Ludington also said she wanted to make it clear that her group had no problem
with four-laning of Smith Level Road to the NC 54 bypass, but no further,
because it would be bad for the watershed.
Margaret Brown, also a
member of the Smith Level Alliance, said she also had supported the work of the
committee. Ms. Brown said her group had
sent a memorandum to the committee outlining their concerns. She added that the committee had addressed
these concerns. Council Member Andresen
noted that there was a resolution asking for an agreement to keep Smith Level
Road at two lanes but that it had come to her attention that the Department of
Transportation did not agree with Carrboro's wishes to maintain a two-lane
roadway. Ms. Brown suggested that the
agreement before the Council clearly stated that Carrboro and the Town wanted
to maintain Smith Level Road at two lanes from Rock Creek to Starpoint. She said it was important to show a united
front in this regard. Ms. Brown also
said that planning and transportation staffs from both jurisdictions should be
clear that the proposed four lane roadway should terminate at Rock Creek Road.
Council Member
Herzenberg asked Ms. Brown whether she thought that the proposed resolution was
unclear. Ms. Brown replied that the
document should clearly state why Smith Level Road should remain a two lane
roadway. She added that the explanation
should be definitive and elaborate so there would be a clear understanding in
the future.
Council Member
Herzenberg noted that there was no mention of maintaining Smith Level Road at
two lanes because everyone had agreed to it.
Ms. Brown stated that the North Carolina Department of Transportation
needed to have this clearly articulated.
John Florence referred
to the clause in the agreement about the joint desire to preserve Smith Level
Road as a two-lane road. Mr. Florence
stated that he would like to see much stronger language to convince the
Department of Transportation that the two towns were in agreement that a
portion of Smith Level Road should be preserved as two-lane roadway. Mr. Florence said it would be inappropriate
for the roadway to become a detour for U.S. 15-501.
Julie Coleman, a
resident of Smith Level Road, said she knew that staff members in both towns
were committed to maintaining Smith Level Road as a two-lane roadway, but was
uncertain whether the Council concurred with this arrangement.
Ken Rudo said he was
concerned with environmental health issues.
He stated that the Department of Transportation must be dissuaded from
making Smith Level Road into a four-lane roadway since it would encourage additional
traffic. Mr. Rudo stated that greater
levels of commuter traffic directly contributed to greater carbon monoxide
levels.
Council Member Brown
said it was her understanding that the Town of Carrboro currently had chief
jurisdiction over Smith Level Road. She
added that if the annexation line were changed, jurisdiction of Smith Level
Road would become the joint responsibility of the two towns. Mayor Broun stated that roadway jurisdiction
matters would be determined by the Department of Transportation. Council Member Brown said she hoped that
Department of Transportation officials would take jurisdiction's feelings into
consideration during their decision-making processes.
Council Member Brown
inquired about the amount of support to remove the widening of Smith Level Road
from the Transportation Improvements Program (TIP). Mayor Broun responded that the Town's proposal was to four lane
Smith Level Road only from Rock Creek to the NC 54 bypass. He added the State
Department of Transportation favored making Smith Level Road a four lane roadway
along its entire length. Mayor Broun
said he did not know how the project got into the TIP, but the Transportation
Advisory Committee did not recommend its inclusion. Mayor Broun said although he did not believe the project was on
any timetable, he suggested that the Council proceed with requests for its
removal.
Council Member
Andresen stated she had received a letter from Jim and Kathy Bartlett about
properties which would come under Carrboro's zoning jurisdiction. Council Member Andresen requested that Town
staff respond to the Bartlett's concerns in their follow-up report to the
Council.
Council Member Powell
requested that stronger language be included in the proposed agreement. Council Member Powell said she did not know
whether this would really help the matter but the Town needed to respond in a
strong manner. Council Member Andresen
responded she would be speaking at the Town of Carrboro public hearing on the
proposal.
Referring to the
Bartlett's concerns, Council Member Herzenberg noted that the proposed
annexation agreement was between the Town of Carrboro and the Town. He noted that the Town of Carrboro felt as
if it were also giving up a narrow band of land adjoining Smith Level Road.
COUNCIL MEMBER RIMER
MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER POWELL, TO REFER THE MATTER TO THE
MANAGER. THE MOTION WAS ADOPTED
UNANIMOUSLY (9-0).
Item 3 Preliminary Plat Approval of Vernon Hills Subdivision
Parties wishing to
testify in the matter were sworn.
Acting Manager Loewenthal requested that materials pertaining to the
application be entered into the record of the hearing. Mayor Broun concurred with the request.
Development
Coordinator Jennie Bob Culpepper described the property and its potential
access points. She stated that the
proposal would improve Old Oxford Road and a gravel public road in the vicinity
of the proposed subdivision. Ms.
Culpepper said the application proposed creating several cul-de-sacs, resulting
in four separate pockets of
development. She said the three major
issues were: provision of a pedestrian
trail along Allard Road, payment-in-lieu for a recreation area, and the
possibility of a potential future roadway connection from the unopened
right-of-way and the new cul-de-sac to Woodhaven Drive. She stated that staff recommended the
provision of a turnaround in the unnamed right-of-way to minimize land
disturbance.
Council Member Andresen
inquired whether the developer would still make a payment-in-lieu for
recreation if a four-foot wide trail were provided. Ms. Culpepper said yes,
adding that if the developer provided a twenty-foot trail, then the payment
would be decreased based on the dedication of the right-of-way for the larger
trail.
Council Member Brown
asked Ms. Culpepper to be more specific on the desirability of a roadway
connection. Ms. Culpepper responded
that the Comprehensive Plan encouraged connection of roads and access to
undeveloped property. Council Member
Brown asked whether there were some special needs in this case. Ms. Culpepper responded that it would be a
long and difficult drive from one side of the development to the other without
the provision of an access road.
Council Member Rimer
requested further clarification on the cul-de-sac situation. He stated that when the Comprehensive Plan
referred to the need to respect the form of land when evaluating the need for
roadway connections. Council Member
Rimer said if there were a knoll with a 16% slope located in the area, it would
be necessary to cut about fifteen feet into a hillside to construct an access
road. He requested that staff reexamine
the matter of access roads. Council
Member Rimer also said he wanted to see the graveled path improved but kept in
its present beautiful state.
Martin Rody, Chair of
the Chapel Hill Planning Board, said the Board supported provision of a future
road connection, as well as a possible future roadway connection to Woodhaven. He noted that the Board also supported the
idea of a three-way stop at the unnamed road intersection. Mr. Rody said the Board recommended that the
Town, rather than a homeowners association, be responsible for maintenance of
the various pedestrian areas. Mr. Rody
said the Board recommended that the Allard Road path be a five-foot graveled
path and that it be left in its current state.
He also said the Board recommended that future roadway connections be
marked as such so that future property owners would be aware of the overall
plan. Mr. Rody noted that there were
three dissenting votes from Planning Board members on these issues. He said that some Board members believed
lots 11, 12, and 13 should share a driveway connection.
David Hughes, speaking
for neighbors of Michaux, Allard and Elliott Roads, said they believed that
through traffic from the Lake Forest area would create a safety hazard which
had not been fully evaluated. He said
the addition of stop signs would increase these hazards. Mr. Hughes showed the Council a video tape
designed to demonstrate this point. He
said that existing properties would be devalued because through traffic would
change the character of the neighborhood.
Mr. Hughes said neighborhood residents believed that the property value
for Vernon Court would be more along a cul-de-sac than along a proposed through
street and that stubbing would therefore devalue the contiguous property.
Mr. Hughes stated that
the thrust of his neighborhood's petition was to express opposition to future
roadway connections between Woodhaven and Michaux Roads.
Lydia Freeman,
speaking on behalf of her mother, Mary Cheek, stated that her family owned a
parcel of land adjoining the proposed Vernon Hills Subdivision. She said her family was opposed to the
proposed through street because it would come within 45 feet of her mother's
home. Ms. Freeman said her family had
owned property in the area since 1948 and was built according to the Town's
direction. Ms. Freeman said her family
would never have positioned their home near a through street. She also said her family was appalled that
the Town might reverse its stand on the future of the property. Ms. Freeman asked the Council to allow her
family to keep the serenity of its neighborhood and not contradict the
understanding in place since 1986.
Celia Sanford stated
that she was concerned about traffic coming out of the proposed
development. Ms. Sanford requested that
close attention be paid to this matter.
Fred Lampe showed
slides of his property and that of his neighbor, Joe Hakan, as well as a path
to the end of Allard Road. Mr. Lampe
said he had maintained the path for eight years and was more than willing to
continue to provide maintenance in the future.
Dwight Morris, a
resident of Allard Road, complimented the Town for its maintenance of Allard
Road. Mr. Morris said he had some
concerns about the proposed Vernon Hills subdivision. Mr. Morris said although he did not want to block the
development, he wanted to maintain the land in a manner consistent with past
practices. Noting that many children resided in the area, Mr. Morris expressed
concern that access road would possibly result in Allard Road becoming an area
thoroughfare. Mr. Morris said that if
any of the roads were opened up it would result in the creation of a major
thoroughfare from Elliott Road to the Lake Forest area. Mr. Morris said he opposed the provision of
any through streets in the Allard or Michaux Road area.
Dan Paxton,
representing the developer, stated that he felt that most of the concerns
expressed this evening had been about proposed roadway stub-outs. Mr. Paxton said his client would consider
having a cul-de-sac without a stub-out.
Mr. Paxton said that if the Council decided on a cul-de-sac, he would
recommend a T-turnaround rather than a standard turnaround. Mr. Paxton said he felt there was a need for
persons to be able to walk through the development using a pathway. He requested that the Council consider the
twenty foot wide pathway as a recreation area.
Katie Wells stated
that she had resided in the area for eleven years. Ms. Wells said she had chosen to live on Woodhaven Road because
it was a cul-de-sac. Ms. Wells said she
did not feel the need for a through street through her neighborhood because
there was adequate existing access from either side and there was no need for a
street through the middle.
Council Member Werner
said he thought Ms. Wells' comments made a lot of sense. He said that in looking at the area map, he
saw no reason why one would want to connect this roadway. Council Member Werner said he thought the
residents might use it, but they did not want it.
Council Member Chilton
said he had a question about proposed lots 11 & 12. He said it looks like one of them had a
driveway about 150 feet long and the other appeared to be slightly longer. Council Member Chilton said these two flag
lots would constitute an entire football field length run for the Sanitation
staff to service these two lots.
Council Member Chilton said he did not believe that this was consistent
with the Town's policy on flag lots.
Council Member
Andresen agreed with Council Member Chilton's comments on flag lots. She said the Town had discouraged them in
the past and should continue to do so.
Council Member Andresen said the Council should ask the Manager to
reconsider his recommendation on this point.
Council Member
Herzenberg inquired whether there was an alternate access to lots 11 and
12. Council Member Chilton suggested
making these long driveways a street instead.
Mayor Broun stated that staff could come back with a recommendation on
this issue, including possible reconfiguration of the lots.
Council Member Powell
said she understood residents concerns about their properties.
Council Member Rimer
stated that in his observation of driveways and flag lots, there were many
homes where the driveways were as long or longer and steeper than the lots in
the proposed Vernon Hills subdivision.
He suggested that staff address these concerns in its follow-up report.
COUNCIL MEMBER
ANDRESEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIMER, TO REFER THE MATTER TO THE
MANAGER. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY
(9-0).
Item 4 East Franklin Car Care Special Use Permit
Parties wishing to
testify in the matter were sworn.
Acting Manager Loewenthal requested that materials pertaining to the
application be entered into the record of the hearing. Mayor Broun concurred with the request.
Jennie Bob Culpepper
provided an overview of proposed development.
She stated that the owners wished to make adjustments to the current
building by placing a roof over existing gas pumps and a small building addition
to the existing building. Ms. Culpepper
said that the application was before the Council this evening because there
were a number of exceptions being sought by the applicant including street
setbacks, landscape buffering, shading and the use of two hundred feet of
Franklin Street frontage. She said the
applicant was proposing some additional landscaping on the site and placing a
canopy over the service area. Ms.
Culpepper said the canopy would be only five feet from the road
right-of-way. She said the applicant
was also requesting an exception to livability space. Ms. Culpepper stated that there were perimeter landscape buffers
but because this was an existing development, the applicant was unable they to
meet these requirements. She said the
minimum required lot size was 20,000 square feet for a gas station, while the
existing station encompassed about 17,000 square feet. Ms. Culpepper said staff believed that the
Council could make the finding that public purposes were served by the site
changes to the facility. She said staff
recommended adoption of Resolution A.
Mike Hammersly stated
that although the applicant had attempted to do everything they could do to
enhance the property, there were many constraints. He said the eastern and southern boundaries had retaining walls
so site plantings were restricted. Mr.
Hammersly added that the west side of the site had only a 12-foot drive from
the property line, allowing no room for additional plantings. He also said the applicant's attempt to
acquire additional right-of-way from the State Department of Transportation for
additional plantings had been unsuccessful.
Martin Rody, Chair of
the Planning Board, said the Board had unanimously agreed that there was
sufficient depth around the canopy so that surface lights could be used. He said the Board felt that these types of
lamps would be easier to maintain. Mr.
Rody stated that the Board also discussed various exceptions and felt that the
Council had sufficient reason to grant approval of the request special use
permit.
Council Member
Andresen inquired about the visual proximity of the proposed canopy to Franklin
Street. Ms. Culpepper said the distance
was approximately 62 feet with a 5-foot DOT right-of-way.
Mayor Broun inquired
whether the applicant accepted the proposed conditions of approval. Mr. Hammersly said this was correct.
COUNCIL MEMBER CHILTON
MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIMER, TO REFER THE MATTER TO THE
MANAGER. THE MOTION WAS ADOPTED
UNANIMOUSLY (9-0).
Item 5 Village Companies Special Use Permit Modification
Parties wishing to
testify in the matter were sworn.
Acting Manager Loewenthal requesting that materials pertaining to the
item be entered into the record of the hearing. Mayor Broun concurred with the request.
Jennie Bob Culpepper
stated that the applicants proposed building an addition to their existing
facility. She said the proposal was for
an 18,000 square foot building and a 51-space parking lot located on Weaver Dairy
Road. Ms. Culpepper said there were
three main issues, the first being road improvements and the timing of road
improvements. She said that past
approvals of Village Companies had included required improvements to Weaver
Dairy Road, and staff had also included this in the proposed resolution. Ms. Culpepper said the second issue involved
recommending that a bus shelter, rather than a bus pull-off, be provided on
Weaver Dairy Road. She said that the Department
of Transportation had indicated that when a bus shelter was present, a bus
pull-off should also be provided. Ms. Culpepper said improvements should also
be made to existing water and sewer lines.
John Fish,
representing Village Companies, stated that this project had been changed from
a three-story, 18,000 square foot structure to a two-story, 18,000 square foot
structure. He said the applicant had
been working on this project since last March and had attempted to work within
the regulations of the Town. Mr. Fish
said he had had extensive contact with the Planning staff and others and during
this process the Village Companies have agreed to make many
accommodations. Mr. Fish said his
client had agreed to provide a bus shelter and pad, shower facilities for
bicycle riders, encouraging employees to purchase bus passes by offering a
subsidy, and dedicating ninety feet of right-of-way. Mr. Fish said he felt that the Village Companies had been working
well with the Town and agreed with the adoption of Resolution A. He said the Village Companies were willing
to provide the improvements to the roadway but wished to change the
recommendation to one-half of a 68-foot cross section, rather than one-half of
a 75-foot cross section. Mr. Fish said
the Department of Transportation had a policy prohibiting a bus shelter in
rights-of-way without the provision of a bus deceleration and acceleration
lane. Mr. Fish requested that staff
resolve this matter with the Department of Transportation as soon as possible.
Mr. Fish said the
applicant wanted to be able to use the proposed parking area as a staging area
during construction. He requested that
the requirements concerning timing of the parking lot construction should be
deleted or rephrased in the proposed resolution. He also said that although the applicant supported having space
for vanpoolers and carpoolers, Village Companies had a long-standing policy of
not providing any reserved parking spaces, even for key personnel.
Mr. Fish stated that
with regard to the proposed utility and lighting plan, it was the applicant's
understanding that all utilities were already available on Weaver Dairy Road
except for natural gas which was not needed.
He requested that this condition be excluded from the proposed
resolution.
Ms. Culpepper
indicated that the staff was concerned about the proposed timing of Weaver
Dairy Road improvements. She said staff
believed that the improvements should be in place before construction of the
parking lot. Ms. Culpepper also stated that
the Council had previously a request (for Greybluff subdivision) to provide
one-half of a 68 foot, rather than 75 foot, right-of-way cross-section. She noted that the Department of
Transportation had previously indicated an unwillingness to accept reduced lane
widths.
Council Member Werner
inquired where the Town installed its bus shelters. Noting that the Department of Transportation apparently had
recently adopted a new policy, Ms. Culpepper said bus shelters had previously
been located in the right-of-way.
Council Member Rimer inquired whether there was something the Town could
do to help with this problem. Mayor
Broun said this new policy posed some problems and would require additional
follow-up work. Council Member Rimer
stated that the requirement for a bus acceleration lane was not feasible
because it required too much room.
Mayor Broun concurred.
Council Member
Andresen said installation of a bus acceleration lane was a good idea in light
of additional future traffic volumes and the proposed new high school on Weaver
Dairy Road.
Council Member Brown
asked how many employees would be utilizing the proposed new building. Mr. Fish stated that there were presently
about 200 employees with approximately 70 more employees to be hired following
completion of the building. He added
that there were currently 197 parking spaces at the site.
Mayor Broun inquired
whether the applicant accepted the proposed conditions of approval. Mr. Fish said the applicant accepted all of
the conditions except those pertaining to the provision of a bus pull-off lane
and bus shelter.
COUNCIL MEMBER WERNER
MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIMER, TO REFER THE MATTER TO THE
MANAGER. THE MOTION WAS ADOPTED
UNANIMOUSLY (9-0).
Item 6 Eastowne Office Park Building 600
Special Use Permit
Modification
Parties wishing to
testify in the matter were sworn.
Planning Director
Roger Waldon stated that the request before the Council this evening was
basically a request for a time extension of a special use permit originally
approved in 1991. He said the Council
approved special use permits for Buildings 600, 700 and 800, all similar in
size. Mr. Waldon said while buildings
700 and 800 were built, building 600 was not.
He said since the time to complete construction had expired, the
applicant had requested and received a time extension request in 1991. Mr. Waldon stated that due to special
problems, construction still had not begun.
Mr. Waldon said that the applicant was requesting a modification to the
special use permit to extend the time for start of construction for two years
and completion of construction to four years.
Planning Board Chair
Martin Rody said the Board had split their vote six to three because of new
members on the Board who were not familiar with the project. He said the Board agreed with the staff
recommendation that the construction start time be set at two years and
construction completion time be set at four years.
COUNCIL MEMBER WERNER
MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WERNER, TO REFER THE MATTER TO THE
MANAGER. THE MOTION WAS ADOPTED
UNANIMOUSLY (9-0).
The meeting adjourned
at 10:40 p.m.