MINUTES OF A WORK SESSION HELD BY THE
MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL, NORTH CAROLINA, WEDNESDAY, JUNE
21, 1995, 5:30 P.M.
Mayor Broun called the work session
to order at 5:43 p.m. Council Members
in attendance were Joyce Brown, Joe Capowski, Mark Chilton, Pat Evans, Lee
Pavão, Barbara Powell, Jim Protzman and Rosemary Waldorf. Also in attendance were Town Manager Cal
Horton, Assistant Town Manager Florentine Miller, Planning Director Roger
Waldon and Development Coordinator Jennie Bob Culpepper.
Mr. Horton presented an overview of
the Council's process to date for reviewing the proposed Meadowmont
development. He noted that this
evening's work session was an opportunity for the Mayor and Town Council to
have direct interchange with the applicants.
Roger Perry of East-West Partners,
the applicant, said he and his colleagues were enthusiastic about the proposed
plan and the related opportunities for public/private cooperation. Mr. Perry also said he hoped that it would
be possible to convey the logic of the proposed plan this evening. He stated that a mixed-use development plan
would be no more profitable than a single-family development on the proposed
site. Mr. Perry said his firm and
associates would be good stewards of the land.
Scott Murray presented an overview of
the proposed land-use plan, including brief descriptions of proposed open
spaces and topography of the site. Mr.
Murray stated that 60% of all proposed residential units would be located
within a quarter mile radius of the proposed village center and 80% of all
residential units would be located within a one-half mile radius.
Mayor Broun suggested that the
Council's discussion be separated into six parts: entranceways & vistas,
road network and transit matters, preservation of environmentally sensitive
areas, designation of public spaces, pattern of residential/office/commercial
development and the level/densities for the same. Hearing no objections, Mayor Broun suggested that the Council
proceed in this manner.
Entranceways/Vistas
Scott Murray displayed conceptual
illustrations of trees and green space along the NC 54 entranceway
corridor. Mr. Murray also showed a
rendering of a proposed building on the northern portion of the site in the
portion of the site proposed for mixed-use development.
Council Member Brown inquired about
the scope of the areas proposed for trees and meadows. Mr. Murray stated that this area on the
south side of NC 54 would vary in width between 170 and 450 feet from the
right-of-way and from 200 to 600 feet in width on the north side of NC 54. Council Member Brown inquired about the
length of the area proposed for preservation.
Mr. Waldon said he believed this area would be a few hundred feet in
length. Mr. Waldon indicated that he
could provide a more specific answer once he had the opportunity to review
scales of appropriate maps. Mr. Perry
noted that he and his staff would be pleased to provide acreage counts for
visible versus non-visible preservation areas in its follow-up work session
with the Council on July 6th.
Council Member Waldorf said she was
troubled that there might be too much surface parking proposed on the southern
portion of the proposed development.
She inquired whether Mr. Perry had considered compressing buildings and
putting more parking behind them. Mr.
Perry stated that the vast majority of parking on the south side of NC 54 would
be behind or underneath buildings or screened by vegetation. Council Member Waldorf inquired whether Mr.
Perry had considered the possibility of providing decked parking. Mr. Perry stated that the incremental cost
of decked versus surface parking was approximately an additional $6,000 to
$8,000 per space. He also said that the
provision of deck parking generally made the viability of office space somewhat
more difficult. Brad Davis stated that
there would be an area approximately two football fields wide between NC 54 and
an area in which parking spaces might be visible from the roadway.
Noting that his firm had once thought
of relocating to an area along the NC 54 but could not due to parking deck-related
concerns, Council Member Protzman suggested that Mr. Perry and his colleagues
possibly consider reducing the amount of office space proposed for the area
south of NC 54.
Council Member Evans said she very
strongly favored preserving as many trees as possible between NC 54 and
proposed buildings on the site. Mr.
Perry said he appreciated the Council's guidance on matters such as whether the
entranceway should feature pastoral or some other type of landscaping. Stating that a significant amount of money
was earmarked for meadows restoration, Mr. Perry said the meadows could be
dedicated to the homeowners association in perpetuity or to the Town.
Council Member Protzman said he felt
it was important for the Council to provide guidance on the landscaping of
entranceways. Council Member Brown
stated that the Council had previously given direction that its preference was
for natural, preserved pastoral landscapes, rather than sculpted
landscaping. Council Member Pavão said
it was also important for the Council to agree on the degree of preservation of
existing landscaping and vegetation in the area.
Council Member Chilton said he
favored landscaping similar to the current state of Merritt's Pasture. Brad Davis said the developers could restore
the landscaping and meadows to a pastoral state, including planting of natural
fescue grasses, if the Council wished to do so.
Council Member Brown inquired whether
Mr. Waldon had been able to discern additional detail information about the
proposed provision of dedicated open space along the NC 54 corridor in the
Town's Entranceway and Land-Use Plans.
Mr. Waldon stated that the Town's 1986 land-use plan contained a
conceptually-based straight line of 600 feet from NC 54. He also said the Town's detailed master plan
for entranceways depicted widths of between 150 and 750 or 800 feet along the
entranceway corridor.
Council Member Brown said it would be
helpful to see the proposed lines overlaid on the actual terrain of the
proposed site plan. Mr. Waldon stated
that the proposed lines in the Town's entranceway plan were taken from aerial
photographs, rather than being surveyed lines.
Mr. Perry stated that it had always been his intention to build
buildings on the edge of the meadow, with approximately 22 of the 35 acres in
the meadow area being preserved. He
added that a number of public/private facility trade-offs would be needed to
restore the meadow lands. Mr. Perry
also stated that if a subdivision developer wished to do so, it way legally
permissible to build houses fifty feet from the NC 54 right-of-way in the
future.
Council Member Capowski inquired
about the total amount of building square footage proposed south of NC 54. Mr. Perry stated that combined building
square footage west of Friday Lane would be 225,000 square feet, while a
140,000 square foot hotel and 19,800 of commercial/office/retail space was
proposed east of Friday Lane. Council
Member Capowski inquired about the number of parking spaces proposed on the
south side of NC 54. Mr. Perry said
there would a total of approximately one thousand parking spaces on the south
side of NC 54. Council Member Capowski
inquired about the total amount of asphalt coverage for the proposed
project. Mr. Perry said he and his
staff would need to calculate this figure.
Council Member Capowski inquired about the scope of the site on the
south side of NC 54. Mr. Murray said
this site would be approximately thirty acres. Mr. Perry stated that a significant number of parking spaces
would be located under office buildings on the south side of NC 54.
Mayor Broun inquired whether the
Council had any additional comments concerning green space and meadow
lands. Council Member Protzman said it
appeared that the Council concurred that the entrance corridor should emphasize
a lush, rich green environment.
Mr. Perry raised the possibility of
locating an amphitheater near the lake in the meadow as a venue for Sunday
afternoon concerts and other events.
Council Member Brown requested a
clarification concerning the possibility of a subdivision developer constructed
homes within fifty feet of the right-of-way along NC 54. Mr. Waldon stated that Town development regulations
concerning subdivisions would permit such a development to occur. Council Member Brown inquired whether the
Town had any mechanisms to require the dedication of open space by
developers. Mr. Horton said although
there was no mechanism to require developers to set aside open space in a
particular place, this matter was certainly negotiable on individual
projects. Council Member Brown asked
whether it would be possible to preserve a six hundred foot buffer along the
corridor within the context of the Town's special use permit process. Mr. Horton said the six hundred foot buffer
was a general guideline, rather than a requirement having the backing of an
ordinance.
Council Member Evans said she favored
a pastoral landscape. She also
suggested the possibility of having jogging paths in the meadows area and
around the adjacent pond. Mr. Davis
said it was the applicant's intent to provide pedestrian and bicycle paths
without disrupting the meadow's visual continuity and including the planting of
shade trees along pathways.
Council Member Powell inquired about
the plans for tunnelway under NC 54.
Mr. Perry stated that the diameter of the existing tunnel was
insufficient to accommodate pedestrians or bicyclists. Mr. Perry said he hoped to receive approval
from the North Carolina Department of Transportation to temporarily reroute
traffic around this section of NC 54 in order to construct a larger underpass
for pedestrians and bicyclists. Council
Member Capowski said without such a pedestrian/bicycle tunnel under NC 54, the
project would be divided into north and south projects. Mr. Perry expressed his concurrence.
Council Member Capowski inquired
whether the proposed buildings on the south side of NC 54, if considered as a
separate project, would meet floor area and related requirements. Mr. Waldon said since the project was one
parcel, staff did not have this information immediately available.
Noting that there were currently four
traffic signals within the span of 1.1 miles on NC 54, Council Member Capowski
inquired about the possibility of avoiding the need for a fifth signal at the
proposed intersection with Meadowmont Lane.
Mr. Perry stated that current projections were that a fifth signal would
be necessary.
Mayor Broun noted that even if the
Council did not require installation of a traffic signal, the NCDOT could
mandate such a requirement in the future.
Council Member Evans inquired whether the applicant had explored the
possibility of alternate access
to office buildings as a means of
decreasing the need for traffic signals.
Mr. Perry stated that the University had agreed to permit access to the
buildings from the east but would not approve dual access from Finley Golf
Course Road.
Council Member Brown said it would be
very helpful to have an overlay map of ridge lines and slopes on the site. Mr. Murray showed a display of such a
map. Council Member Brown said it would
be helpful for the Council to have copies of the ridge line and slope maps in
order to explore these matters in greater detail.
Mayor Broun inquired about the
Council's wishes for applicant follow-up on entranceway-related matters prior
to the July 6th work session.
Referencing an earlier site rendering
shown as an exhibit by the applicant, Council Member Chilton inquired whether
the entire elevation of this building would be visible from NC 54. Mr. Perry said the proposed building would
be a visible piece of architecture, located on a ridge top behind the main
meadow. Mr. Davis said it would be most
desirable to embed the proposed building into the hillside.
Council Member Brown said she was
very serious about language concerning the preservation of landscaping and
vistas. Council Member Brown also said
she wanted to see topographical and ridge line maps before reaching any decisions
in these matters. She inquired how the
applicant's illustrative plan related to the master land-use plan. Mr. Waldon said the applicant had two
separation applications: one for
rezoning and the master land-use/illustrative plan.
Council Member Waldorf inquired
whether it was correct that the master land-use plan would have documentation
about details on matters agreed upon the Town Council. Mr. Waldon said this was correct, noting
that specific conditions could be attached to the master plan approval.
Council Member Brown requested that
the applicant provide a map showing the proposed building sites overlaid on a
topographical map. Mr. Perry said he
would do so.
Mayor Broun asked whether there was
anything the Council did not want the applicant to do in terms of entranceways
and vistas. Council Member Powell said
it would be desirable for the applicant to explore options to the need for a
fifth traffic signal along the NC 54 corridor.
Council Member Brown said some of her current reservations might be
allayed by information from the applicant at the July 6th follow-up work
session.
Council Member Pavão requested that
Planning staff provide Mr. Perry with a copy of the recent report on
development sustainability presented to the Council by Dr. David Brower and his
Planning graduate students. Mr. Waldon
said he would do so.
Council Member Waldorf said she would
find it helpful for the applicant to provide additional renderings of proposed
buildings in relation to the site's conditions. Mr. Perry said his staff would be pleased to do so.
Road Network and Transit
Council Member Chilton stated that
the design of the proposed Meadowmont Lane was very important. He inquired whether it was correct that
thirty to forty lots would have driveways directly accessing on to Meadowmont
Lane. Mr. Perry stated that this number
might be somewhat less if a school were located on Meadowmont Lane. He said that Meadowmont Lane would
effectively be two one-way streets, with driveways being right-in and right-out
only, with each turnaround-type driveway serving two lots. Mr. Perry added that the site's
topographical and environmental sensitivity made it impractical to have
alleyways behind homes along Meadowmont Lane.
Council Member Chilton said although
he had not done as much deep thinking as the applicant on this matter, he
believed it would be best not to have any driveways directly access on to
Meadowmont Lane.
Council Member Evans inquired whether
the applicant was proposing a bicycle lane along Meadowmont Lane. She also asked where visitors to Meadowmont
Lane residents would park their vehicles.
George Kirchbaum said also Meadowmont
Lane was proposed to ultimately connect to U.S. 15-501, it was not contemplated
to be more than a two-lane road, with bicycle lanes. Mr. Davis stated that the applicant envisioned a roadway
patterned after Queens Road West in Charlotte, featuring a well-designed
landscaped median down the middle of the Meadowmont Lane corridor.
Council Member Waldorf inquired
whether alleyways could be accommodated if the Council deemed them to be
desirable. Mr. Perry said yes, noting
that topography generally precluded alleyways to the east of Meadowmont
Lane. He added that East-West Partners would
make every effort to minimize impervious coverage and runoff on the site.
Council Member Brown said it was very
important for the Council to take proposed language seriously about the
proposed connector road between NC 54 and U.S. 15-501. She stated that placing driveways directly
on to a connector road (Meadowmont Lane) could be very dangerous. Council Member Capowski expressed his
concurrence with both points. Noting
the Triangle Transit Authority's long-term plan for light rail along the NC 54 corridor,
Council Member Capowski inquired about the applicant's plans in this regard.
Mr. Kirchbaum said there was
sufficient width to the proposed median
to accommodate the possibility of a
light-rail system. Council Member Evans
asked whether there was sufficient room to preserve trees in addition to the
possibility of light rail. Mr. Perry
said no, noting that trees were proposed on both sides of Meadowmont Lane. Mike Horn noted that landscaping and light
rail systems were generally incompatible partners.
Mayor Broun inquired about the
conceptual fit of a light rail line down a parkway. Mr. Perry said he had met with Jim Ritchey of the Triangle
Transit Authority to examine options including extra deep home sites, a well-divided
roadway and the cost of light rail per mile versus fixed rubber tire
buses. Mr. Perry said he did not think
that a bus lane would be incompatible with the proposed parkway. Mr. Davis said he was envisioning a trolley
system, rather than a light rail system.
He stated that the City of San Jose, California has a people mover mass
transit system which
runs down the middle of residential
streets. Council Member Evans said it
would be preferable to preserve groves of trees whenever possible. Mr. Perry said this would be manageable in
most instances.
Council Member Capowski said it was
unlikely that a road other than Meadowmont Lane would be used to connect U.S.
15-501 to NC 54.
Council Member Waldorf inquired
whether staff could elaborate on the proposed roadway alignment. Mr. Waldon presented an overview of the
proposed alignment, noting that the actual alignment had not been
finalized. Mr. Perry said the route
resulting in the shortest crossing of Little Creek would be the most desirable.
Council Member Brown said it would be
desirable to have as few driveways as possible directly on to Meadowmont
Lane. Mr. Kirchbaum said he did not
believe that Meadowmont Lane would be a high-volume four lane roadway in the
future. Council Member Brown asked
whether Meadowmont Lane would be a collector road. Mr. Kirchbaum said no.
Council Member Brown inquired about the Town's definition of a collector
road. Mr. Waldon said under existing
definitions, Meadowmont Lane would be a collector road at present and an
arterial in the future. Council Member
Brown said it appeared that Meadowmont Lane would be a main collector road for
the area.
Council Member Evans said she hoped a
large sign could be posted at the end of the proposed Meadowmont Lane,
indicating that a future roadway extension was proposed as part of the State
thoroughfare plan. Mr. Perry said he
would be pleased to do so.
Council Member Evans inquired whether
any thought had been given to the proposed subdivision entranceway off NC
54. Mr. Perry said no specific plan had
been articulated to date. Council
Member Capowski inquired whether it would be fair to say that if there were
five nay votes against the development of Laurel Hill Parkway/Meadowmont Lane
that this would not take place. Mr.
Horton said he believed this would be fair to say, subject to changes by the
North Carolina Department of Transportation.
Council Member Chilton inquired
whether it was correct that little if any connection to the Lloyd property was
proposed in the future. Mr. Perry said
this was correct. He added that the
Lloyd property was a narrow one located in a relatively steep area. Council Member Chilton inquired about the
possibility of a future stubout to the Lloyd property in an area with two ponds
near the eastern property line. Mr. Perry
said he could look into this possibility.
Council Member Chilton inquired about
the possibility of a connection to Pinehurst Drive. Mr. Perry said at the request of Pinehurst Drive residents,
Meadowmont was planning to have only emergency access to Pinehurst Drive to
facilitate access by police and fire personnel. He noted that this decision was ultimately in the Council's
hands.
Council Member Capowski said it was
important for the Council to assure that the impact on surrounding
neighborhoods was minimal.
He inquired what steps would be taken
to assure that Lancaster Drive did not become a parking lot for nearby soccer
fields. Mr. Perry said he proposed to
give a strip of land to the homeowners association as a means of restricting
access to the area. Mr. Perry also said
he was confident that no one would use Lancaster Drive for pedestrian access to
the soccer fields and baseball diamonds since it would involve a very long and
damp walk across wet fields. Council
Member Capowski asked whether proposed parking facilities near the soccer
facility would be adequate. Mr. Perry
said he believed so. Council Member
Pavão added that if a proposed school were located nearby, this parking lot
might also be used for parking for the soccer fields.
Council Member Waldorf inquired about
the applicant's proposed circulation plan for walkways and transit stops. Mr. Murray showed an overlay of the proposed
overall circulation plan for buses, bicyclists and pedestrians. Mr. Perry stated that all streets would be
interconnected with the exception of dead end streets into Corp of Engineers
land and the adjoining golf course. Mr.
Davis said the applicant was trying to develop a better street layout using a
modified grid-type system. He added
that special attention had been paid to providing a well-connected set of
streets on a pedestrian scale. Council
Member Brown stated that although the proposed street grid pattern appeared to
be a conventional one, she would reserve final judgement on this matter. Mr. Perry said he looked forward to the
Council's examination of the plan in terms of streets and topography. Mr. Perry also said he very strongly
disagreed with the statement that the proposed street pattern was not a traditional
layout. Mr. Davis said the applicant
could provide information about historic street patterns in other communities
having hilly terrain.
Council Member Evans said it was
particularly important that Pinehurst Drive be extended if a school were to be
so closely located to a residential area.
She stated that one way to protect Burning Tree Drive residents would be
to eliminate a direct route from Meadowmont Lane to Pinehurst Drive. Council Member Evans asked about the
possibility of crossing the Resource Conservation District further down the
current proposal. Mr. Perry said this
was a possibility. Council Member Evans
inquired whether there would be left turn lanes along Meadowmont Lane. Mr. Kirchbaum stated that left turn lanes
would be provided to facilitate turning movements. Mr. Perry added that a left turn lane might also be needed to
accommodate a possible school site.
Stating that it was important not to
impinge on existing neighborhoods, Council Member Capowski suggested not
connecting Pinehurst Drive to Meadowmont Lane.
Mayor Broun said this matter could be decided by the Council in the
future. Council Member Capowski
inquired how bicyclists could access the UNC campus from the proposed
Meadowmont development. Mr. Murray said
bicycle lanes would be constructed along Meadowmont Lane. Mr. Kirchbaum said staff was recommending
that the applicant provide disconnected bicycle lanes across the full frontage
of the proposed Meadowmont development.
Council Member Capowski suggested that the applicant might also wish to
consider constructing a bicycle lane on the south side of NC 54.
Mayor Broun noted that there was an existing
bicycle & jogging path near the Friday Center which might be extended with
cooperation between the applicant and the University. Mr. Perry noted that he had been in contact with the University
about development in the Mason Farm area.
Council Member Waldorf said she would encourage the applicant to
continue talking to the University about possible cooperative ventures on the
southern portion of the site. Mr. Perry
said he felt that the ultimate design and types of uses on the southern part of
the property should be designed in conjunction with the University's
plans. He expressed hope that NCDOT
would permit a pedestrian/bicycle connection under NC 54.
Mayor Broun reviewed concerns noted
by Council Members this evening including the proposal for direct driveways on
to Meadowmont Lane, the need for clarification of street grid patterns in
relation to topography, road patterns in relation to land uses, future access
to the Lloyd property and the interconnection of bicycle path.
Council Member Brown said she thought
it was very important that the Council discuss the provision of narrower
streets in neighborhoods as a traffic calming technique. Mr. Perry said he and his colleagues
concurred that this was an important component of proper character for the
proposed community. Mr. Perry noted
that he and his colleagues looked forward to discussing this matter in further
detail with the Council.
Preservation of Environmentally
Sensitive Areas
Mr. Perry stated that there were two
environmentally sensitive areas on the proposed site. He noted that there was a Corp of Engineers flowage easement in
the far northern portion of the property which was proposed for wetlands
preservation. Mr. Perry stated that the
only possible use of this area would be a nature trail, with minimal impact on
this environmentally sensitive area.
Noting that he had recently walked in
this area, Council Member Chilton said he believed there were some utility
easements in the area. Mr. Murray
stated that there were two or three natural gas lines in the area. Mr. Kirchbaum noted that the vast majority
of this area was heavily wooded.
Council Member Chilton asked whether the applicant proposed to use the
same alignment for a nature trail as the existing deteriorated and little used
trail. Mr. Perry said this was
correct. Council Member Chilton asked
about the possibility of using Chapel Hill gravel for the trail. Mr. Kirchbaum said he believed that a
boardwalk would be a preferable approach in the sensitive wetlands area. Council Member Chilton asked whether two
crossings of Little Creek were proposed.
Mr. Kirchbaum said the applicant proposed a loop type trail which would
require only one crossing of the creek.
He noted that the Corp of Engineers evaluation of the wetlands area
would be completed in the near term.
Council Member Evans said she hoped tree preservation would be foremost
in the applicant's mind. Mr. Perry
stated that all steps would be taken to preserve as many trees as possible.
Council Member Brown requested
clarification of how the specific dimensions of the wetlands area would be
designated. Mr. Kirchbaum said the
specific metes and bounds would be certified by the Army Corp of Engineers.
Mr. Perry stated that the second
environmentally sensitive area was the Resource Conservation District area
running north and south through the proposed Village Center to the Corp of
Engineers easement. He noted that there
was another RCD area near the Chapel Hill Country Club. Mr. Perry stated that a drawing with survey
lines to delineate the area could be provided to the Council.
Mayor Broun inquired about
anticipated stormwater impacts on surrounding properties. Mr. Kirchbaum said this was a difficult
question to answer, given its complexity.
He stated that all necessary steps would be taken to comply with the
Town's impervious surface limitations, especially in sensitive areas. Mr. Waldon stated that the staff's
preliminary analysis was that there would be more water quality, rather than
water quantity, concerns to address. He
noted that the maintenance of stormwater detention basins would be an important
matter to be resolved.
Council Member Waldorf inquired how
close the proposed development was to Jordan Lake water quality
restrictions. Mr. Murray said the
maximum impervious surface coverage for the southern portion of the site was
fifty percent and twenty-four percent for the northern area. Mr. Perry said he believed the density of
the proposed project was more constrained by impervious surface restrictions
than zoning or other regulatory powers.
He stated that impervious surface restrictions were an effective to
safeguard against overdevelopment.
Council Member Brown inquired whether
the applicant had given consideration to cluster developments. Mayor Broun suggested that this would be a
good starting point for discussions at the next work session on Thursday, July
6th at 5:30 p.m. in the Council Chamber.
Mr. Davis inquired whether Council Member Brown could provide examples
of desirable cluster developments.
Council Member Brown said she would attempt to do so.
Council Member Waldorf inquired about
the projected profitability of the plan.
Mr. Perry said his firm had downscaled the retail and office component
by about twenty percent. Mr. Perry stated
that any further reductions in intensity would necessitate cost savings
tradeoffs in order for the project to
remain fiscally viable. Council Member
Waldorf inquired approximately how many R-1 lots might be developed in lieu of
a mixed-use development. Mr. Perry said
approximately six hundred and fifty.
Mayor Broun said it might be useful to discuss cost saving options at
the July 6th work session. Mr. Perry
said he would be pleased to do so.
The work session concluded at 8:39
p.m.