SUMMARY OF A COUNCIL WORK SESSION ON
PROPOSED MEADOWMONT MASTER LAND USE
PLAN AND REZONING REQUESTS, THURSDAY, JULY 6, 1995
Mayor Broun called the work session
to order at 5:38 p.m. Council Members
in attendance were Joyce Brown, Joe Capowski, Mark Chilton, Pat Evans, Lee
Pavão, Barbara Powell, Jim Protzman and Rosemary Waldorf. Also in attendance were Town Manager Cal
Horton, Assistant Town Manager Florentine Miller and Planning Director Roger
Waldon.
Mayor Broun noted that this evening's
session was a continuation of the Council's June 21st work session on the
Meadowmont development application. He
stated that this evening's work session would focus on three areas not
discussed at the last session:
designation of public spaces, pattern of development and level of
development (densities). Mayor Broun
said he hoped the Council would be able to give the applicant specific instructions
and feedback concerning the proposed development. He also expressed hope that the Council and applicant would be
able to have a discussion about public/private facility tradeoffs relative to
the proposed Meadowmont development.
Mayor Broun called upon Roger Perry to make a brief overview
presentation.
Mr. Perry noted that East-West
Partners had consulted with Town staff to develop answers to unresolved
questions raised at the June 21st work session. Land Planner Scott Murray presented illustrative conceptual plans
of proposed buildings overlaid on the existing site. Land Planner Brad Davis presented a comparative analysis of
several existing or planned mixed-use developments including Marble Head, Myers
Park, the Kentlands and Cameron Park.
He stated that although the Kentlands was much more dense than the
proposed Meadowmont development, the two developments were quite similar in the
proposed mix and intensity of land uses.
Referencing East/West Partners letter
of June 26th to the Mayor and Council, Mr. Perry presented an overview of
responses to Council questions raised at the June 21st work session. Mr. Perry said he hoped the Council would be
supportive of efforts to garner NCDOT's support to put an underground
pedestrian/bicycle tunnel under NC 54.
Mr. Murray reviewed a graphic depiction of the proposed
pedestrian/bicycle/greenway circulation plan for Meadowmont. He stated that key points on the site would
accommodate pedestrians or bicyclists wishing to travel short distances between
destinations.
Mr. Perry stated that the applicant
was willing to comply with all ordinances regarding aesthetics and overall
water quality standards pertaining to stormwater management.
Public Open Spaces
Mr. Murray stated that approximately
thirty percent of Meadowmont's net land area was proposed for open space or
park usage. He noted that proposed
recreational facilities lay outside of the wetlands area. Mr. Perry said approximately one-third of
the Meadowmont site was set aside for open space, not including a possible
school site.
Council Member Waldorf inquired about
the possibility of providing walking and jogging trails around ponds and open
space on the site. Mr. Perry said he
would be amenable to providing such facilities.
Council Member Evans inquired about
the possibility of the applicant providing basketball courts. Mr. Perry said such facilities could
possibly be sited in mini-parks throughout the site. Mr. Davis noted that a typical mini-park would comprise
approximately one acre. Council Member
Evans noted that her purpose was to encourage active recreation
activities. Council Member Waldorf said
it would be desirable to have recreational improvements which were appropriate
to proposed development types.
Council Member Waldorf inquired
whether Mr. Perry was proposing to donate land for civic uses. Mr. Perry said no, noting that he was
proposing that the proposed civic site, comprising about one acre, could be
reserved for future acquisition by the Town.
Council Member Capowski inquired
about the location of the proposed school site. Mr. Murray said it would be in the northern portion of the
property. Mr. Perry said if the school
district wished to have the school site, the project's master plan could be
changed accordingly. Council Member
Chilton asked whether the proposed school site would reduce the number of
proposed dwelling units. Mr. Perry said
yes, by approximately fifty units.
Council Member Capowski inquired
about the possibility of digging a deeper floor for the existing tunnel under
NC 54. Mr. Kirchbaum said this would
likely compromise the structural integrity of the crossing and therefore would
not be approved by the State Department of Transportation. Council Member Powell inquired whether the
feasibility of an overhead crossing over NC 54 had been investigated. Mr. Perry said that based on strong signals
from the Council and advisory boards that this was not a preferable approach,
the viability of this option had not been explored. Mr. Waldon added that board and commission concerns had focused
on aesthetics and whether or not such a walkway would be utilized.
Mr. Perry said this matter could be
analyzed if the Council wished.
Council Member Pavão inquired whether
the applicant's discussion with NCDOT concerning a tunnel under NC 54 had been
exploratory. Mr. Kirchbaum said the
nature of the discussion had been to broadly explore the possibility of an open
cut or an actual tunnel. He added that
NCDOT had not reached a final definitive conclusion on these
possibilities. Mr. Perry said the
Council's support might be helpful in securing NCDOT's assistance in this
matter.
Council Member Brown said it was
especially critical that wetland areas be protected. Mr. Kirchbaum said the wetlands area had been delineated by the
Army Corp of Engineers during January, 1995, one of the wetter months of the
year. He stated that the applicant and
Corp of Engineers had worked closely together to delineate the wetlands
areas. Council Member Brown said she
was very interested in knowing whether or not the wetlands area had ever been
filled in. Mr. Kirchbaum said that
judging from tree cover in the area, there had been no fill activity in the
last ten to fifteen years. Council
Member Brown requested that this matter be further explored.
Council Member Pavão inquired whether
Council Member Brown had flooding-related concerns. Council Member Brown said she especially concerned about runoff
potential onto adjoining areas and properties.
She also said that the Council owed it to Town residents to be vigilant
in this regard. Mr. Perry said the Town
had very thorough development standards which would not permit building
activity to occur in designated wetlands or other especially sensitive areas.
Council Member Waldorf inquired
whether the applicant proposed to dedicate land for a school site. Mr. Perry said a proposal had been made to
the School Board that land could be offered at raw land prices. He stated that this was quite a generous
offer since 40 to 50 homes could be constructed on the possible school site.
Mr. Perry said the proposal was for
an eighteen acre site, rather than the six acre site in the Southern Village
development.
Mr. Perry said it would be necessary
to have equal tradeoffs in order to accommodate any additional significant
unilateral concessions such as the provision of more open space or density
reductions. Mr. Perry also said the
applicant was indifferent economically about whether the property was developed
using its current zoning or mixed-use zoning.
Council Member Waldorf inquired whether the developer had calculated
that estimated profits from developing the tract as a mixed-use development or
with the existing zoning would be about the same. Mr. Perry said this was correct.
Council Member Capowski inquired whether the possibility of alternative
school sites had been explored. Mr.
Perry said alternative sites had not been explored, adding that the proposed
site was adjacent to play fields and a park, effectively creating a thirty-five
acre site.
Pattern of Residential and
Commercial Development
Mr. Perry stated that the 430-acre
Cameron Park development in Raleigh would have land uses and comparative densities
which were similar to the proposed Meadowmont development. He also said that about sixty percent of
residential units would be located within one-quarter mile of the village
center and eighty percent of the units would be located within one-half mile of
the center.
Council Member Brown requested that
the applicant examine the possibility of using commercial village centers such
as those in Carrboro or Hillsborough as concept plan models for the proposed
Meadowmont development. Council Member
Brown also requested that work on proposed transportation plans for the
development to minimize the need for, and number of, automobile trips. She suggested that the applicant work more
closely with the Town's Comprehensive Plan to integrate all housing types into
the proposed development.
Mr. Perry stated that the proposed
village center comprised a total of approximately 125,000 square feet, about
one-seventh the size of the Cameron Village Shopping Center in Raleigh. He noted that the proposed center would need
to draw about 5,000-7,000 regular customers in order to be viable, contrasted
with the proposed Meadowmont full build-out population of 2,500 persons. Mr. Perry also stated that the proposed
Meadowmont development was not sufficiently large or dense enough to viably
sustain its own commercial uses. He
said the proposed village center area was the last critical area on the site in
terms of water quality and environmental concerns.
Council Member Brown stated that a
recent study by the Rocky Mountain Institute had concluded that many mixed-use
type developments were a burden on existing community taxpayers. Council Member Brown also said it was very
important that the proposed development fit in with the Town's Comprehensive
Plan and that it be a beneficial asset for the community's residents. Council Member Pavão said it was important
for the Council to consider the proposal on a broad scale, using the East
Entranceway component of the Comprehensive Plan as development guidelines. Council Member Brown said there appeared to
be a difference of opinion on this matter.
Council Member Evans inquired whether
all retail uses were proposed for the portion of the site north of NC 54. Scott Murray said the preponderance of
retail uses (125,000 square feet) were proposed for the village center area
north of NC 54. He also said that 9,600
square feet would be located on the south side of NC 54, with a small parcel
being located on the proposed hotel site.
Mr. Murray noted that the total square footage for office and commercial
uses would be 242,000 square feet, excluding the proposed hotel.
Council Member Evans noted that the
total proposed retail square footage, 134,000 square feet, was roughly
equivalent to the combined square footage of Carr Mill Mall and the Movies at
Timberlyne building. She inquired how
much office space was proposed on the north side of NC 54. Mr. Perry said commercial establishments
such as a wellness center and day care center were proposed for the north side
of NC 54. Council Member Evans also
noted that the Village of Fearrington had permits for the construction of up to
1,600 units. She noted that there were
presently 700 units completed with a total of 1,100 persons living in Fearrington. She also stated that a total of 41,597
persons had attended 658 events at the Friday Continuing Education Center
during the past year. Stating that
visitors to the community could leave their tax dollars here, Council Member
Evans suggested that the applicant consider making shopping as convenient as
possible for pedestrians in the area.
Council Member Chilton said he agreed
that the language in the Comprehensive Plan for the east entranceway corridor
was subject to interpretation. He
stated that the applicant's proposal differed from the Comprehensive Plan in
respects such as the interspersal of uses.
Mr. Perry said he believed the proposed master land-use plan contained a
good mix of considerably different housing types. He also said it made sense to cluster multi-family housing
around higher intensity commercial areas.
Mr. Perry expressed his belief
that the applicant's plan to build in
concentric circles relative to density was consistent with the concept of
"fine grains" in the Comprehensive Plan. Stating that some single-family homes would be located
immediately adjacent to multi-family development, Council Member Chilton said
he begged to differ with Mr. Perry on this point. Mr. Perry said this point was very well-taken in this instance.
Council Member Protzman requested a
clarification of Council Member Chilton's wishes concerning the desirable
location of commercial uses. Council
Member Chilton said a development such as the Fountains which proposed to
include office, retail and residential uses all in the same building. Brad Davis said the proposed village center
area could include office, commercial and residential uses. He stated that some residences could
possibly be located on the second or third floor of buildings in the village
center area. Council Member Waldorf
asked whether the proposal was for commercial uses to be on the first floor,
with residential uses on the second floor.
Mr. Davis said office and residential uses could be blended on the
second and third floor of buildings in the village center area. Council Member Waldorf asked whether
blending of uses was feasible in terms of marketability. Mr. Perry said he believed this was
feasible. Council Member Waldorf said
she really liked the idea of blending uses.
Council Member Pavão inquired about the estimated build out time for
Meadowmont. Mr. Perry said seven to ten
years.
Council Member Capowski expressed
concern that the applicant had made no adjustments to the proposed master or
illustrative plan in response to the Council's adopted Comprehensive Plan for
the Town's east entranceway corridor.
Council Member Protzman said he believed that the applicant's plan was
mostly in agreement with the Council's comprehensive plan document for the east
entranceway corridor.
Council Member Capowski noted that
the proposed wellness center was to be used by UNC Hospital patients, rather
than persons wishing to pursue general fitness and wellness programs. He also stated proposed five-story office
buildings on the south side of NC 54 would have to serve a broader area than
local neighborhoods.
Mayor Broun said he believed that the
applicant intended to construct a good, high quality development. He also said it was very important that the
proposed development meet the goals of the Town's Comprehensive Plan and the
community's needs. Mayor Broun urged
the applicant to maximize the opportunities for pedestrian uses while
recognizing the need for commercial uses.
He also suggested that the applicant reexamine the proposed plan in
terms of the principles in the Town's Comprehensive Plan for the east
entranceway corridor.
Council Member Protzman thanked Mr.
Perry and his staff for sharing site renderings and the proposed scale of
different buildings on the site. He
noted that the reality of restored meadows might be that some buildings would
be set back on the meadow land areas.
Council Member Protzman urged the applicant to provide the Council with more
fully developed ideas and details for the area outside of the village center.
Stating that the Town's Comprehensive
Plan was about goals, rather than absolutes, Council Member Evans said the east
entranceway component of the plan was meant to serve as a guide for
development, rather than rigid, inflexible rules. She noted that the plan contained the phrase "where
practical and appropriate" in a number of places. Council Member Evans said she did not like
strict definitions being used as development "stoppers".
Council Member Chilton said he
concurred that a lot of the Town's Comprehensive Plan was about goals. Council Member Chilton also said he was
attempting to determine whether or not the applicant had done everything
possible to achieve the plan's goals.
He suggested that the applicant consider the mix of uses in the
development and compress the overall development area. Council Member Chilton also said he had some
concerns about the number of intersections and potential impacts on NC 54. He expressed hope that it would be possible
to connect the southwest portion of the property to Finley Golf Course Road and
Friday Lane.
Council Member Chilton also requested
that the applicant consider
having no driveway directly on to
Meadowmont Lane. Mr. Perry said it was
possible that Meadowmont Lane could serve as a residential street only, rather
than a mass transit/light rail compatible corridor, if the Council wished.
Mayor Broun inquired whether it was
feasible for this roadway to cross the Lloyd property. Mr. Perry said this would make it possible
to tie the road into NC 54 at Friday Lane.
Mr. Waldon added that the Thoroughfare Plan paid closer attention to
tie-in points rather than a specific roadway alignment. Council Member Pavão inquired about the
feasibility of locating the transit center closer to the village center. Mr. Perry said this could potentially be
worked out in conjunction with the North Carolina Department of Transportation. Stating that there had been considerable
joint discussions with the City of Durham and NCDOT in 1991 concerning the
proposed roadway alignment, Council Member Brown said it would be necessary to
reopen discussions if a new alignment were proposed. She inquired about the proposed intersection point on NC 54. Mr. Waldon said the conceptual alignment
would be the intersection of NC 54 and Friday Lane. He added that all proposed alignments had been in this
approximate area and crossed the Corp of Engineers property, consistent with
the Thoroughfare Plan adopted by the Council and other parties.
Council Member Waldorf said she
thought it was worth looking into the potential advantages of possible
alignments to the east.
Mayor Broun said Meadowmont Lane
would still be a significant road even without a school site. Mr. Perry said Meadowmont Lane would still
be a minor connector road. Council
Member Evans said the possible realignment would give access to the Lloyd
property.
Council Member Brown asked whether it
was correct that area developers would be responsible for building Meadowmont
Lane/Laurel Hill Drive. Mr. Waldon said
this was staff's understanding. He
added that public funds would be used to build portions of the roadway such as
the Corp of Engineers land. He added
that the applicant could not be required to construct the portion of roadway on
the Lloyd property. Mayor Broun
suggested that the applicant examine the possibility of revising the roadway
alignment plan. Council Member Pavão
added that it was important to plan 25-30 years in advance for the transit
center facility. Mr. Perry said these
matters could be examined in concert with Town staff. Council Member Brown said she believed it would be a mistake to
place driveways on to Meadowmont Lane, a main collector roadway.
Mayor Broun suggested that the
applicant reexamine road alignment options and report back to the Council in
the future.
Council Member Pavão said the
applicant's proposal appeared to be consistent with the Council's sustainable
development goals. Mr. Perry said
although the proposed development was not totally in compliance with the
sustainability report, a lot of the criteria were met, including providing
potential employment opportunities along the Town's east entranceway corridor.
Council Member Waldorf said she
sensed a difference on the Council about the level and placement of commercial
development. She inquired whether it
was correct that feeder neighborhoods would need to support proposed commercial
development in Meadowmont. Mr. Perry
said this was correct. He expressed
optimism that a financially successful and socially responsible mixed-use
development could be constructed on the site by the applicant.
Council Member Waldorf inquired which
phases of the project would be completed first and why. Mr. Perry said residential development would
occur first, followed by office and commercial development. He stated that there was a clear need for
more retail space in the Town. Council
Member Brown inquired which residential area would be built first. Mr. Perry detailed the specific area,
generally in the southwest portion of the site. He stated that the area would have a mix of housing types including
apartments, a congregate care facility, affordable housing, townhouse development,
small cluster homes, medium and larger home sites.
Council Member Brown said the Council
needed to carefully scrutinize developments along the NC 54 entranceway
corridor. Mr. Perry said he hoped that
the Town's Comprehensive Plan would provide sufficient flexibility to approve
the proposed Meadowmont development plan.
He expressed willingness to fine-tune the proposal in terms of
pedestrian friendliness and other matters.
Council Member Evans requested that
the applicant's follow-up report to the Council in the fall contain specifics
for design guidelines for lots, buildings, parking, sidewalks, buffers, trees,
screening and other items. Mr. Perry
said although there was still some work to do in this matter, a lot of this
information was contained in the original development application.
Council Member Capowski requested a
clarification of how R-5-C zoning was initiated. Mr. Waldon reviewed the process, noting that R-5-C zoning would
be in place following approval of the first special use permit for a
project. Council Member Capowski
inquired whether it was correct that development would have to conform to an
approved master land-use plan. Mr.
Waldon said this was correct.
Level of Development (Densities)
Mr. Perry said the amount of proposed
office and retail square footage had been reduced by about 140,000 square feet
since the original submittal. He stated
that the current proposed office and retail square footage was at a minimal
level to make the project viable. Mr.
Perry also said there were many costs of the proposed mixed-use development
which would not exist in a standard subdivision development application. Council Member Pavão inquired whether it was
correct that the proposed 18 acre school site could accommodate forty or fifty
home sites. Mr. Perry said this
reflected a pure loss which could not be economically recovered.
Noting the importance of the
provision of affordable housing, Council Member Capowski asked whether the
applicant was willing to provide a breakdown of estimated selling prices for
residential units. Mr. Perry said he
would be pleased to provide this information to the Council. He added that joint efforts would be
undertaken with the Orange Community Housing Corporation to attain affordable
housing opportunities.
Mayor Broun inquired whether Council
Members had any comments concerning street widths, especially the possibility
of narrower streets. Council Member
Evans said she hoped that roadways which would accommodate buses and bicycle
lanes would be a little wider than other roads. Mr. Perry said he believed that narrower streets were more
conducive to bicycling. He also stated
that sidewalks would be provided on both sides of streets. Stating that the Council was not wedded to
any particular street width, Mayor Broun said widths could be tied to
individual need situations. Council
Member Brown said it would be a good idea to have narrower streets, as outlined
in the east entranceway portion of the Comprehensive Plan.
Mayor Broun suggested that the applicant
review the proposed development plan and attempt to maximize pedestrian uses.
Council Member Brown said it was
important for the applicant to examine possibilities to minimize the number of
traffic signals and entrances on NC 54.
Council Member Waldorf suggested that
the applicant continue to pursue the blending and clustering of housing prices
and types.
Mr. Perry said efforts would be made
to provide a high quality of life at the most affordable possible price.
Council Member Capowski inquired about
traffic calming options if the Council approved a roadway connection between
Pinehurst Drive and the proposed Meadowmont development. Mr. Perry said calming techniques could be
explored. Council Member Capowski
requested that the applicant consider scaling back the amount of proposed
non-residential development.
Mr. Perry thanked the Mayor and
Council for the deliberate and professional manner in which the development
proposal had been handled this evening.
Mr. Perry said he and his staff would make some adjustments to the
proposed plan prior to the September 18th public hearing.
Mr. Waldon noted that Town advisory
boards and commissions would review the proposal prior to the Council's
September 18th public hearing.
Mayor Broun noted that the Council
stood adjourned until its planning retreat on Saturday, August 26th. The meeting concluded at 9:08 p.m.