MINUTES OF A WORK SESSION HELD BY THE MAYOR AND
COUNCIL OF THE
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL, NORTH CAROLINA, WEDNESDAY,
FEBRUARY 21, 1996
Mayor Waldorf called the work session to
order. Council Members in attendance
were Julie Andresen, Joyce Brown, Mark Chilton, Pat Evans, Richard Franck, Lee
Pavão and Barbara Powell. Council
Member Joe Capowski was absent excused.
Also in attendance were Town Manager Cal Horton, Assistant Town Managers
Sonna Loewenthal and Florentine Miller, Development Coordinator Jennie Bob
Culpepper and Planning Director Roger Waldon.
Noting that there were many different
viewpoints about the Town's development review process, Mr. Horton said the
staff was ready to assist the Council as needed regarding the overall review
process.
Mayor Waldorf noted that Council Member
Capowski was unable to attend this evening's work session and had submitted his
comments in writing earlier in the day.
She inquired whether there were any suggestions from Council Members
about how to proceed this evening.
Council Member Evans suggested starting with
simple principles such as citizen involvement early and often in the review
process, the need for better project review from start to finish, and offering
reviews by citizens and a Design Commission prior to formal submittal by
applicants.
Council Member Brown said one flaw in the
current process relative to early and frequent involvement by citizens was the
fact that meeting times of some boards conflicted with one another. She stated that this situation could be
easily remedied by having applicants making presentations to combined boards
and commissions.
Council Member Franck said although there
appeared to be widespread agreement on the idea of having a concept plan early
in the process, there appeared to be some disagreement about which boards or
commissions would review the plans. He
stated that the Council needed to take care not to put too much strain on
existing Planning Department staff resources.
Mayor Waldorf said there was some question as
to which projects needed to undergo early review, with the current focus being
on somewhat larger projects.
Council Member Brown said having concept
plans in the development review stage might lead to some types of
problems. She suggested that the
Council focus its attention on possible changes to the Development Ordinance.
Stating that she did not favor any major
changes in the way in which development proposals were currently reviewed,
Council Member Andresen suggested the possibility of "tweaking" the
process by adding a concept plan step to the review process. She also suggested that the Council needed
to firm up the matter of a final decision on whether or not the Appearance
Commission and Design Review Board would be merged or kept separate. Council Member Andresen also said the
Council might wish to address the question of whether or not the Design Review
Board was reviewing a sufficient number of proposals. Noting that the chairs of the two boards were in attendance this
evening, Council Member Evans suggested that the Chairs might be able to
provide input in this regard. Mayor
Waldorf said there appeared to be Council concurrence to hear from the two
chairs this evening.
Appearance Commission Chair Diane Bachman
said the Appearance Commission and Design Review Board had done an admirable
job of working together over the past year.
Ms. Bachman said she did not believe that the Commission was seeking to
have its mission diminished from its current level of responsibilities. Stating that the Commission was not seeing a
lot of projects at an early enough concept stage, Ms. Bachman stated that by
the time the Commission saw the projects, it was costing clients a lot of money
to implement any and all changes suggested by the Commission. She added that the Design Review Board got
caught up in the same predicament.
Mayor Waldorf asked whether there was value
in appearance issues being reviewed in early concept form. Ms. Bachman said that this was absolutely
the case. Council Member Brown asked
how this fit in relative to the Development Ordinance. Ms. Bachman said that landscape buffering
requirements needed improvement in terms of providing greater flexibility and
creativity to applicants. She added
that it was not unusual for the Commission to come up against creative
solutions which the Development Ordinance would not allow the Commission to
implement.
Council Member Andresen asked whether the
Appearance Commission wished to remain together as a separate entity. Ms. Bachman said even though the Appearance
Commission and Design Review Board had worked well together, both groups needed
to see concept plans early in the process.
She also said that concept review by the Design Review Board should be
mandatory for all projects.
Design Review Board Chair Bruce Ballentine
said although the two groups had worked well together, this arrangement would
not work well in the long term. Mr.
Ballentine stated that the majority of development projects circumvented the
current Design Review Board review process.
He suggested that the existing process needed to be modified to permit
the Appearance Commission and Design Review Board to review projects all the
way through the development review process.
Mr. Ballentine also noted that the number of members on the Design
Review Board/Appearance Commission had declined from twenty to thirteen or
fourteen, due to the uncertainty of the future of the Boards.
Council Member Pavão asked whether it was
possible that one board with a reformulated charge could serve the community's
needs.
Mr. Ballentine said this was possible if
existing functioning bodies such as the Transportation Board, Planning Board
and Parks and Recreation Commission continued in their existing capacities in
the development review process.
Stating that the Design Review Board had not
worked as broadly as originally anticipated, Council Member Andresen inquired
whether Mr. Ballentine could cite instances where the Design Review Board had
been able to improve specific project proposals. Mr. Ballentine stated that one convalescent care project had many
neighborhood and site related problems which would have taken a long time to
resolve if this proposal had not had an early review by the Design Review
Board. He added that an incentive for
projects to be reviewed by the Design Review Board was the applicant's
knowledge that they had a good chance to receive priority status for expedited
review.
Ms. Bachman stated that the Grace Church
project proposal was not a well-designed project. Mr. Ballentine stated that the Appearance Commission had rejected
the project's plans two or three times at the end of the review process due to
design concerns. Ms. Bachman said this
had cost the church more money than if the review had been earlier in the
process. Mr. Ballentine noted that the
church's congregation was nonetheless very happy with the revised design for
this project.
Ms. Bachman suggested that the Appearance
Commission needed to review projects on three separate occasions, the first
time to provide an overall conceptual review, the second time to see that
proposed changes from the first review were incorporated and a third time to
assure that the Commission's wishes were properly executed. Ms. Bachman said it was very important for
input from other boards to get back to the Design Review Board/Appearance
Commission prior to the second review.
She also said that if the Appearance Commission had been able to work
with Grace Church on its plans earlier in the process, it might not have been
necessary to bring back the project three times for revisions.
Council Member Chilton stated that some
projects came before the Council without particular commitments on specific
items, with project plans tending to be conceptual in nature.
Stating that she was somewhat uncomfortable
that only the Design Review Board and Appearance Commission were making
comments this evening, Council Member Brown said she would like all boards and
commissions to have an opportunity to make comments on this matter. Council Member Andresen also said it was
important to receive input from other advisory boards and commissions. Council Member Franck said it was important
for the Council to agree on what it found to be acceptable. Mayor Waldorf noted that this evening's
meeting was a work session, with no specific action or decisions necessary.
Council Member Powell expressed appreciation
for Ms. Bachman and Mr. Ballentine's comments.
She inquired how other advisory boards and commissions would fit into
the review process.
Council Member Evans said conceptual plans
would go to the Design Review Board/Appearance Commission, with plans also
being reviewed by other advisory boards such as the Parks and Recreation
Commission, Greenways Commission and Transportation Board, with final reviews
and approvals being made by the Planning Board and Town Council. She added that specifics in this matter
could be molded by the Council, including possible changes in the Council's
charge to commissions such as the Appearance Commission.
Noting that some development proposals came
to the Council for two reviews at present, Council Member Chilton said he found
it hard to imagine the Council's work load if all projects over a certain size
had to come to the Council for review.
Council Member Powell asked whether Council
Member Chilton was suggesting that some boards should perhaps not be
combined. Council Member Chilton said
he was addressing whether or not boards should be reviewing projects a certain
number of times, rather than whether or not boards should be combined.
Council Member Andresen suggested that the
Council could possibly attempt this evening to answer the question of whether
or not the Design Review Board and Appearance Commission should be merged. She also suggested that the Council could
possibly explore the types of functions that a merged committee could handle. Council Member Andresen also suggested the
possibility of the Council asking the Appearance Commission to review its role
and make recommendations to the Council about its future role in the
development review process. She said
that two other questions for the Council to consider were: (1) whether or not the Design Review Board
should review all projects? and (2) does the Council want other boards to
continue their present functions?
Mr. Ballentine suggested having three project
reviews only for major projects, with the third review being optional.
Council Member Franck said he concurred with
Council Member Chilton's concerns about the amount of time it might take for
project reviews. He suggested that the
three review stages could be labelled as concept plan, formal application and final
building elevations. Council Member
Franck suggested that the Council could reconstitute the Design Review
Board/Appearance Commission for continuity purposes and make concept plans
mandatory for special use permits, master land-use plans and subdivisions
having more than twenty-five lots. He
added that a streamlined version could include having the Design Review Board
review concept plans and the Appearance Commission review final building
elevations. Council Member Powell
inquired whether Council Member Franck was proposing continued input from
representatives of other boards on the Design Review Board. Council Member Franck said that this was
correct.
Referencing the two-tracked process suggested
by Dr. David Godschalk, Council Member Evans said if applicants did everything
right, a third review would not be needed.
Council Member Brown said it was important
for the Council to think about the need for changes to the Town's Development
Ordinance. Council Member Franck
said consideration of the Development Ordinance was much more important to
consider than the question of the development review process.
Council Member Andresen said that it was
important to get the matter out in the public domain, possibly by means of a
future Council agenda item and possibly a future public hearing.
Council Member Chilton asked whether or not
it was correct that there was no support for having a combined Appearance
Commission and Design Review Board.
Council Member Brown said it appeared that Mr. Ballentine supported
merger of the boards. Council Member
Chilton said he believed that Mr. Ballentine was referencing the two boards
meeting together. Mr. Ballentine said
he believed that the current structure could be left in place if conceptual
plan review were made mandatory. Ms.
Bachman stated that if the two boards were to continue to meet together, the
Council would need to give the Appearance Commission and Design Review Board
the same charges they presently had.
Council Member Chilton said the Council could
choose to make no large changes in the status quo, combine the Appearance
Commission and Design Review Board into one board or have two separate
boards. Council Member Franck said that
there appeared to be fairly widespread support for concept plan submittals.
Mayor Waldorf said that the Council had
received feedback from some boards that some applicants were so interested in
getting through the development as fast as possible that they sometimes failed
to give sufficient attention to appearance matters.
Council Member Chilton said that there seemed
to be a lot of citizen support to keep the current development review scheme.
Council Member Brown requested that staff put
the options proposed this evening in writing.
Council Member Franck suggested getting possible draft ordinances in the
follow-up report on options. Mayor
Waldorf said the staff only needed to provide the options in outline form.
Council Member Franck said that option number
one would involve:
(1) combining or reconstituting the Design
Review Board and Appearance Commission, including representatives from other
advisory boards, (2) requiring concept plans for projects meeting certain
thresholds and (3) requiring that formal applications go before this proposed
board. Mayor Waldorf inquired about the
feasibility of joint board and commission hearings on development
applications. Council Member Chilton
said although such joint hearings would be helpful, there might be some
logistical difficulties. Council Member
Chilton asked whether mandatory conceptual reviews were being proposed. Council Member Evans said these could be
required for some projects. Council
Member Chilton asked how many visits to the Board were being proposed. Council Member Franck said a total of
three: conceptual, formal application
and a final review.
Council Member Chilton said he had counted
about seven steps in the process being suggested by Council Member Franck. Council Member Franck suggested that the
Design Review Board could review a mandatory conceptual plan, other board
reviews could remain in the current form, while the Appearance Commission would
be responsible for reviewing signs and building elevations.
Council Member Andresen suggested that the
Council consider drafting new charges for the Appearance Commission and Design
Review Board, regardless of whether the boards were combined or kept
separate. Council Member Brown inquired
about the possibility of having joint board hearings for development
projects. Council Member Chilton said
this could be done to the extent feasible.
Council Member Brown noted that she was
suggesting joint presentations to boards, rather than joint discussions by
boards. She said that developers and
citizens might benefit from this approach.
Stating that there was a fair amount of give and take between developers
and board members during development presentations, Council Member Chilton said
it might not be very convenient to have joint presentations. Council Member Andresen said the Council
could have further discussion on this point when the item came back to the
Council. Mayor Waldorf requested staff
comment on the logistics of joint presentations. Noting that sixty or seventy persons might attend some joint
hearings, Mr. Horton said the level of interaction between boards and
applicants was likely to decline with very large groups. Noting that the Parks and Recreation and
Greenways Commissions currently held some joint hearings/presentations, Council
Member Pavão suggested that the Council could explore options for more combined
board presentations.
Council Member Franck said plan one would
eliminate the concept of expedited review and the majority of Appearance
Commission and Design Review Board members would be required to have
professional expertise. He suggested
that members of other Town boards might have transferable experience which
could be used to substitute for direct professional expertise.
Council Member Brown asked what would happen
after the matter was referred back to staff.
Council Member Franck said the options could be sent to boards and
commissions for review and comments.
Council Member Andresen said it was important for the Council to firm up
decisions on this matter in the near future.
She requested that include one or more options in its follow-up report.
Mr. Horton said he was hearing the Council
request that staff draft a scheme and circulate an informal draft to the
Council. He stated that after this
review, the matter could be placed on a regular Council meeting agenda as soon
as possible.
Mr. Ballentine asked whether it would be
possible to schedule the matter on a regular Council agenda. Mayor Waldorf said this was possible.
Council Member Brown said it was important to
allow sufficient time for these proposals to go to applicable boards for comments.
Council Member Evans said the options would
not be new to advisory boards and commissions.
Council Member Powell said she believed that appointments could be made
to the Appearance Commission and Design Review Board while the Council consider
possible changes in the two board's roles and the possibility of their merger.
Growth Management
Council Member Andresen said that she and
Council Member Brown had met recently to outline growth management tool
options. She stated that some of the
Council goals identified were:
preservation of open space, promoting mass transit, preserving wildlife
habitats, promoting a village form in fine grains with a mix of residential
uses and accommodating retail uses on a small scale, providing for stormwater
management controls and striving for aesthetics which were compatible with the
Town's unique built environment.
Council Member Andresen noted that she and Council Member Brown had also
discussed possible strategies to move forward on implementation of these growth
management goals.
Council Member Andresen said possible
implementation tools for the Council to consider included: a 40% open space ordinance, amending
subdivision ordinances to encourage clustering of houses for open space,
measuring air quality impacts, development of a new mixed use zone for
commercial/residential uses and developing a model to assess fiscal, social and
environmental impacts on the Town, schools and natural resources.
Stating that Currituck County had a policy
whereby new developments had to pay for themselves, Council Member Andresen
said this was a really interesting concept. She also noted that Currituck
County's program had an exemption for affordable housing projects. Council Member Brown stated that the focus
of this program was on schools. Council
Member Brown said she would be pleased to share additional information with the
Council about this program.
Council Member Andresen inquired how well the
Town's Resource Conservation District (RCD) Ordinance was working. She also asked whether or not hardships
could be defined, since the Board was not currently receiving legal guidance
about findings of fact.
Council Member Brown said that Council Member
Andresen and herself would be pleased to receive any Council comments or
suggestions about community goals and the related process for implementation.
Council Member Evans said the memorandum
prepared by Council Members Andresen and Brown was a very interesting one. She stated that the identification of the
need for growth management tools pointed out the need for revisions to the
Town's Comprehensive Plan.
Stating that the Council needed to examine its existing goals and
objectives, Council Member Evans suggested referral of the matter to staff for
development of a memorandum about how the Council could initiate a process of
reviewing these items. She stated that
although the Development Ordinance called for separation of uses, this had not
worked especially well in the past twenty to thirty years. Council Member Evans also stated that the
Development Ordinance could encourage more usage of reclaimed water.
Council Member Franck said the list of goals
suggested by Council Members Andresen and Brown was very good. Noting that he had read through the goals
and objectives portion of the Comprehensive Plan earlier in the day,
Council Member Franck said possible additional growth management tools
included: the uses of transportation overlay zones for areas such as the U.S.
15-501 corridor, conducting a survey of open space and forested areas to
identify areas for protection and passing an open space bond to buy more
land. Council Member Brown asked
whether or not staff had anything to report on the survey of open space and
forested areas. Mr. Horton said he was
not aware of any staff or citizen efforts in this regard. He noted that aerial photographs of the Town
had been taken as late as 1993. Council
Member Franck said these photographs could possibly be analyzed for this
project.
Council Member Brown said she concurred with
Council Member Franck about the importance of the Council looking at the
Development Ordinance and providing an opportunity for public input on possible
changes.
Noting that major pieces of land were
continuing to be developed as traditional subdivisions rather than cluster
subdivisions, fine grain mixed-use or affordable housing, Mayor Waldorf
suggested that the Council devote some time to examine zoning. Council Members Brown and Franck expressed
their concurrence with this approach.
Council Member Pavão asked how the Council
could determine what was economically viable in a village concept. Council Member Franck stated that the
Council would need to make a subjective decision about what would be
desirable. Council Member Pavão noted
that some existing mixed-use development projects around the nation had
experienced viability problems with their retail and commercial elements. He stated that the Council needed to be very
careful about this element of mixed-use plans.
Stating that tradeoffs were involved, Council Member Andresen said that
Fearrington Village appeared to be quite successful, despite having a somewhat
limited amount of commercial activity.
Council Member Pavão noted that highway visitors from U.S. 15-501 tended
to help in keeping Fearrington Village retail establishments commercially
viable.
Council Member Brown reviewed items suggested
for addition by Council Members including a review of the Resource Conservation
District, zoning, transit overlay zone, open space and forested areas. Council Member Evans noted that she had
suggested adding separation of uses, reclaimed water and regional transit. She also noted that crime and safety related
concerns needed to be addressed in the Town's Comprehensive planning
process. Council Member Evans said her
inclination was to refer the matter to the Manager for receiving information on
options on how to proceed. Council
Member Evans also requested that the Council receive more information, possibly
from University staff, about fiscal impacts.
Council Member Andresen said it was up to the
Council, rather than staff, to provide direction. She suggested that Council Members could prioritize items for
further consideration in the process.
Council Member Evans said it would be difficult to assess some technical
items such as measuring air quality impacts.
Council Member Andresen said that it might be helpful to have more
detailed descriptions of individual proposals.
She added that having some outside professional expertise might be
helpful in addressing some matters.
Mayor Waldorf inquired how the Council wished
to follow up on this item. Council
Member Andresen said that she and Council Member Brown could put together a of
list of items with a little more detail.
She stated that this list could be used to survey Council Members about
their priorities for the items. Council
Member Chilton suggested that Council Members wishing to do so could add topics
to the listing.
Mayor Waldorf noted that Council Member Evans
had made the suggestion that the Council consider possible revisions to the
Town's Comprehensive Plan.
Council Member Andresen said this item could be added to the proposed
listing. Council Member Evans stated
that preliminary indications were that the Shaping Orange County's Future Task
Force final report would not be ready until 1998. Council Member Brown said it was possible that information
gathering by the Task Force might not take as long as originally
projected. She added that the process
would not be an easy or short one.
Council Member Andresen said she believed
that staff was in the process of preparing a report about the resources need to
undertake a review of the Comprehensive Plan.
Council Member Chilton said he believed that the Council had decided not
to take any action on the Comprehensive Plan at its January 13th planning
session.
Stating that she could not fathom it being a
good idea to operate from a fifteen year old plan, Council Member Evans said
she thought it was very important for the Council to start looking at the
Comprehensive Plan as soon as possible.
Council Member Franck said he endorsed
Council Member Andresen's concept of surveying the Council about topic areas of
interest relative to the Comprehensive Plan.
Council Member Andresen said the Council would be forwarded a list with
more detailed information in the future.
Council Member Brown said any other suggestions would be welcomed. Council Member Franck suggested the
possibility of breaking out zoning-related items from those which were not
zoning related.
The work session concluded at 8:17 p.m.