SUMMARY MINUTES OF A JOINT MEETING OF THE CHAPEL HILL TOWN COUNCIL AND REPRESENTATIVES OF THE TRIANGLE TRANSIT AUTHORITY

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 1999, AT 7:30 A.M.

 

Mayor Rosemary Waldorf called the meeting to order at 7:30 a.m.

 

Council Members present were Joyce Brown, Flicka Bateman, Joe Capowski, Pat Evans, Kevin Foy, Julie McClintock, Lee Pavăo, and Edith Wiggins.  Staff members present were Town Manager Cal Horton, Assistant Town Managers Sonna Loewenthal and Florentine Miller, Town Attorney Ralph Karpinos, Planning Director Roger Waldon, Transportation Administrative Analyst Scott McClellan and Town Clerk Joyce Smith.  Triangle Transit Authority (TTA) representatives present were Rachel Willis and Jim Ritchey.  University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill representatives present were Jon Howes and Aaron Nelson.

 

Mayor Waldorf welcomed the TTA representatives.

 

Mr. Ritchey presented a brief overview of the current status of TTA projects, specifically regional bus services, buspool services to outlying communities, and vanpool and ridesharing programs.  He stated they were carrying about 2,100 passengers during peak service times using 25 buses.  Mr. Ritchey said that they run 3 vans from Efland, Hillsborough and Mebane into Chapel Hill.  He noted  some statistics: regional bus riders were up over 10%; regional bus miles were up over 2.5%; administrative expenses fell about 5.6% due to a lawsuit with their bus provider; they regained half the value of some of the buses due to the settlement; and, the general fund balance rose 31.5%.

 

Mr. Ritchey said that the Regional Transit Plan was in three phases:  1) expanded bus service, buspool services to outlying communities, and regional rail service to Durham/RTP/Cary/Raleigh; 2) bus or rail transit service; and 3) regional rail extensions to outlying communities.

 

Mr. Ritchey stated that the project faced several critical issues, including financing.  He said that financing of the project depended upon federal authorization and annual appropriation, State appropriation and the local share for Mid-Region and Chapel Hill extensions of the project in Phase II.  Mr. Ritchey noted that he had received a phone call from a Fderal Tansportation Adminisration staff representative who said that funds had been budgeted to be used for "new start" projects.  He noted that $24 million had been appropriated thus far:  $2 million for an environmental impact statement; $8 million from Federal Transportation Administration for right of way, final design, and probably bridge construction.  Mr. Ritchey said that he did not believe that $8 million would be the final appropriation.  He noted we would most likely need about $300 million to complete all phases of the regional transit project.  Mr. Ritchey said that in all financing was going well.

 

Mr. Ritchey noted that environmental documentation included finding the right sites for transit stations.

 

Council Member Foy asked who would sell the bonds.  Mr. Ritchey answered that TTA might come to the sponsoring governments with a plan so that the governments’ credit rating would assist in selling the bonds.  He said TTA would likely sell the bonds and would have a stream of funds to sell the bonds, using the local governments’ credit ratings to lower the cost.

 

Mr. Ritchey reviewed the implementation schedule for Phase I: 

                                                                           Beginning date                                   Ending date

Railroad Access                                                  early 1997                                           early 2000

Station Planning

      Station Area Development Guidelines             late 1996                                             early 1998

      Station Plans                                                  late 1998                                               late 1999

      Station Land Use Plans                                  early 1999                                            mid 2000

Preliminary Engineering and

      Environmental Documentation                        mid 1998                                            early 2000

Bus Services Plan                                                mid 1998                                              late 1999

Final Design                                                         early 2000                                            mid 2001

Construction                                                        mid 2001

Financing                                                             mid 1997                        continuing through 2001

 

Council Member McClintock asked, regarding financing for Phase I, if the $50 million was coming from taxes.  Mr. Ritchey said it would come from a rental car tax, including a tax from the rental of trucks.

 

Mr. Ritchey said that Phase II included a Major Investment Study of US 15-501 to consider regional rail and busway corridors, the $224 to $304 million capital cost of the Major Investment Study, daily ridership of between 6,700 and 9,400 people and potential relocations of businesses and residents and environmental impacts.  He noted that the Major Investment Study had been going on for two years.  Mr. Ritchey said that they were considering light rail alignments and busway and regional rail alternatives.  He also said that they were considering the issues of routing at Duke University, the Durham alignment near South Square, New Hope Creek, and Eastgate, the Orange County alignment near UNC, and the source of 50% from local, regional, and State shares.

 

Council Member Brown asked for a definition of regional rail vehicles and light rail vehicles.  Mr. Mr. Ritchey called the Council’s attention to the brochure handed out at the beginning of the meeting for a clear description.

 

Mr. Ritchey said there were some real challenges as to where railroad stations would be placed, such as how to place a station at Ninth Street near Duke campus, and run it to South Square.  He noted exact routing through the Duke campus was a real challenge, as well as how to get through the South Square area and how to cross New Hope Creek, due to its environmental sensitivity.  Mr. Ritchey said there was development occurring in the US 15-501 corridor near Eastgate and I-40 that would present even more challenges.  He said that another significant problem area was the Orange County alignment near UNC, such as how do we go from Meadowmont into Chapel Hill to the University and hospitals.  Mr. Ritchey also said that financing of Phase II was a significant challenge.  He noted that we must raise about $75 million locally for their share of the project.  Mr. Ritchey said that they would have to raise an equal amount, or maybe a little more, for the extension to the RDU airport.

 


Mayor pro tem Capowski asked if this meant that the Town would be contributing money in Phase I for the extension to the airport.  Mr. Ritchey answered no.  He said that TTA would have to raise around $150 million locally, with only limited ways to raise that through taxes.  Mr. Ritchey said that they would have to raise $150 million for Phase II, and they must decide how that would be done through discussions with all involved.

 

Council Member McClintock asked if that figure would include land acquisition.  Mr. Ritchey said yes.  Council Member McClintock noted that the figure seemed very low.  Mr. Ritchey said that figure had been heavily debated, and noted the costs would be 50% federal, 25% State, and 25% local.

 

Mayor Waldorf asked how this money would be raised.  Mr. Ritchey said Phase I would be financed through a rental car tax, and the problem was raising capital and operating funds for Phase II.

 

Council Member Foy asked what options were being considered.  Mr. Ritchey said a sales tax was being discussed as a possible source.

 

Mr. Horton asked how much money a 1 cent sales tax by the County would raise.  Mr. Ritchey said he believed about $1 million a year.

 

Council Member Brown asked who would have control over those funds.  Mr. Ritchey said most likely the County Commissioners.  He said traditionally, sales tax dollars had been shared between city and County dollars, with joint oversight.  He said if that was the case in Chapel Hill, Raleigh and Durham, it would be up to those governing bodies.  He added that ultimately the General Assembly would have control of those funds.

 

Mayor pro tem Capowski asked about the timing for Phase II.  Mr. Ritchey said he believed they would break ground for Phase II in five to six years.

 

Mayor pro tem Capowski asked about the State's share of those funds.  Mr. Ritchey said the State would have to come up with its 25% share for both phases.

 

Mr. Horton noted that some issues might be raised by Durham and Wake Counties if funds raised in those counties were spent in Orange County.

 

Mr. Ritchey said that the next steps included: use of the new Regional Transportation Model to re-estimate regional rail and bus rapid transit ridership; development of a financing plan; authorization by the General Assembly of the local/regional/State share; Metropolitan Planning Organization adoption of the preferred alternative for the US 15-501 corridor and approval of Phase II as an element of the fiscally constrained long range transportation plan; Federal Transportation Administration review and approval of a request to enter Preliminary Engineering/Environmental Impact Statement for Phase II; completion of the draft environmental impact statement (2002); preservation of the corridor; and  design and construction of the extension from Durham to Chapel Hill (2003-2008).

 

Mr. Ritchey said, regarding the Regional Bus Service Expansion, that the bus center would be completed in mid 1999 and evening and weekend bus service would begin in September 1999.  He noted that the expansion would also include the improvement of on-time performance on existing routes and addition of new services with 34 new buses.  Mr. Ritchey said that the routes being planned were: from Hillsborough to Durham to RTP Express; Raleigh/NCSU/Cary/Davis Drive/RTP; Garner/Raleigh with connection to RTP; Apex to RTP via NC 55; North Raleigh to RTP via 540; and Chapel Hill/RTP/Raleigh Express.

 

Council Member Brown asked about routes to the airport.  Mr. Ritchey said they were not contemplating running buses directly to the airport because they did not believe there was enough demand.  He said that service would be provided by bus routes to RTP, then by shuttle to the airport. 

 

Council Member Evans asked if the buses would be able to carry bicycles.  Mr. Ritchey said yes, but storage might be a problem.

 

Council Member Evans asked if the approval of the Southpoint development had affected TTA's plans.  Mr. Ritchey said they had looked at the bus routing through that area, and some changes might have to be made in those routes.  He said the proper place to consider this was in the update to the long-range transportation plan.

 

Council Member McClintock asked about the Major Investment Study results for ridership which showed disappointingly low figures, and if it caused a re-evaluation of plans.  Mr. Ritchey said estimating the ridership in a future transit corridor was extremely difficult.  He noted the transportation model would be calibrated against current use.  Mr. Ritchey said that he encouraged consideration of the models as a good guess, but would most likely not be the final numbers.

 

Mayor Waldorf said the conservative figures did not take into account current traffic congestion and other issues, and it was important to keep in mind peak hour estimates.

 

Council Member McClintock said the bottom line was that people had to be willing to get on a bus to travel between Chapel Hill and other locations, and if it takes an hour, they would not do it.  She asked what the incentives were for Chapel Hill.  Council Member McClintock asked how we could get commuters out of Chapel Hill.   Mr. Ritchey said there were four ways: walk, drive, ride a bike, or take a bus to get to a station.  He said that a combination of local bus services and regional rail would make this system work.  Mr. Ritchey said that the transit investment provided service in the most congested corridors, which would not relieve the traffic congestion, but allowed the capacity of the corridors to last longer.

 

Council Member McClintock said the bottom line was that if it takes an hour to get from Chapel Hill to RTP, TTA would not get their expected ridership.

 

Mr. Horton said the commute time as compared to the time it would take a person to drive must be considered.  Mr. Ritchey agreed.

 


Council Member McClintock asked how long he expected it to take to get from Chapel Hill to RTP.  Mr. Ritchey answered about 40 minutes, with another 20 to 25 minutes to Raleigh.  He said the bus today takes 1 1/2 hours to go from Chapel Hill to RTP to Raleigh.

 

Mayor Waldorf introduced Mark Ahrendsen and Linda Convissor.

 

Jonathan Howes introduced George Alexiou, the University’s Transportation Consultant.  He noted they had been looking at how transportation could be accommodated on the University campus.

 

Mr. Alexiou gave a brief overview of how the main campus might provide mass transit to and from the campus and how this would fit into the land planning context.  He said the purpose of the study the University was doing was to discover where the transit corridors would be and what ripple effect that would cause.  Mr. Alexiou used a map of the UNC campus to demonstrate where rail corridors might be placed and their relationship to future construction plans for the campus.  He said where these corridors might go must be decided in the near future.  Mr. Alexiou explained the possible routes not being considered, and how they fit into future plans.  He noted where rail structures might be built to handle the transportation demand, and discussed the possibility of designating "bus only" travel lanes in some areas.  Mr. Alexiou noted that shuttle buses would serve all stations, so that travel into different areas of the campus would be possible for those using the mass transit system.  He noted the most important aspect of this plan was the actual rail system on the campus.

 

Mr. Howes noted this was work in progress, and to keep in mind its relationship to land use.

 

Mayor Waldorf said a tentative time to discuss these issues would be on February 23rd at the 5:30 work session with UNC.

 

Council Member Brown said it would be advantageous to discuss these issues while it was still fresh in the Council's mind.  She asked what the impact on surrounding neighborhoods would be, and what kind of system could be considered that would have the least impact on neighborhoods.  Mr. Alexiou noted there would have to be some compromises.

 

Rachel Willis said the goal was to get commuters from the campus and Chapel Hill to Durham, the RTP, and Raleigh.  She briefly described some of the more congested intersections coming into Chapel Hill and near the campus and the hospitals.

 

Mayor pro tem Capowski said if the southern rail line was built, then the next thing to happen would be that the south campus would have a bold expansion, and the Horace Williams tract would be de-emphasized.  He said this decision was very important.  Mr. Howes said that was why he had suggested that this discussion take place within the context of the land use plan.

 

Mr. Howes noted that these plans had a significant impact on the community, and it was now time for construction information sharing.  He noted this was the first step in a multi-step plan.

 

The meeting was adjourned at 9:25 a.m.

 

The minutes of February 5, 1999 were adopted on the 22nd day of March, 1999.

 

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Joyce A. Smith, CMC

                                                                        Town Clerk